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New Have to admit
The goal behind K5 is to be able to scale beyond the limitations of other forums, notably Slashdot. Currently K5 traffic is about 10% of its big brother. All told, the comment quality level is pretty good.

But there are [link|http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?KuroshinSubmissionQueue|significant problems with the K5 submission queue]. The site also needs filters (eg: don't display posts below n score (with other variants). I consider the site moderately successful -- the portions I've had a hand in, namely the comment moderation, work well -- good content is promoted, bad content sinks, middlin' stuff gets a middlin' score, very unlike Slashdot. Moreover, there are reasonably few trolls and mindless posts -- levels now at a few per day, but they tend to weed out quickly. Submissions more or less suck.

WRT Carnage4Life, he's been part of the K5 community since September, 2000, if not before. I might note we've got [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/user?userid=23|our own Microsoft mole] here. C4L's not made a secret of his affiliations, though he could well have been more open about them. The commentary in his article was reasonably balanced last I checked, and he's got the ghost of a point.
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Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
New True enough.
For it's volume, yes, the comment quality is pretty good, as is the signal-to-noise ratio, etc etc. It is indeed the story queue which needs some work.

That Wiki page looks interesting... I'll go add some thoughts to it.

Wade.

"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"

New An admission of my own
I don't know how well K5 does or does not work since for some reason its discussion has never interested me.

Perhaps it is just the wrong mix of stories for me. Perhaps has to do with the audience attracted.

But in several tries, I never once found myself being drawn back to the site and its discussion, and so I never became a regular there.

Cheers,
Ben
New No hard feelings
I still think you're a Perl God. ;-)
New Decisions, decisions
Do I bask in the undeserved glow, or do I point out the chasm between myself and someone like [link|http://www.yetanother.org/damian/|Damian Conway]?

Cheers,
Ben
New Are you on the high side of the chasm?
Since the site displays dark green on black on my monitor, and since I can't read a bloomin' think on the site, I can't tell whether you're ridiculing him or praising him.
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it."
-- Donald Knuth
New A more readable version
[link|http://www.yetanother.org/damian/b+w/|Is here].

And no, I would not call myself on the high side of someone like that. I mean, I can make Perl mostly do what I want, sure. But you don't find me deciding that I want to make Perl into Latin, turn Perl into a quantum computer, turn my error messages into Haiku, autocorrect typos in function names, etc, etc, etc.

Take a look at his projects list. Those are his current projects while on a sabbatical paid for by Perl people who want him to have more time to flabbergast the rest of us...

Cheers,
Ben
New Much better
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it."
-- Donald Knuth
     MS shill spreading FUD on Kuro5hin - (marlowe) - (33)
         K5 has gotten too popular. - (static) - (15)
             And one that many Usenet groups went down before that - (ben_tilly) - (10)
                 Yes, I was also thinking something along those lines. -NT - (static)
                 Have to admit - (kmself) - (7)
                     True enough. - (static)
                     An admission of my own - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                         No hard feelings - (rusty) - (4)
                             Decisions, decisions - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                 Are you on the high side of the chasm? - (wharris2) - (2)
                                     A more readable version - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                         Much better -NT - (wharris2)
                 Leading to an unpleasant dilemna. - (marlowe)
             Nah. - (pwhysall) - (3)
                 Yah. You're right. - (static) - (2)
                     The ultimate test is to see how they - (tablizer) - (1)
                         Okay, then. I'll be watching. -NT - (static)
         Gee, that's not a conclusion you just jumped to, is it? - (kmself) - (14)
             Conclusions jumped to long ago... - (rusty) - (9)
                 Hey, glad to see ya :) - (pwhysall) - (3)
                     Re: Hey, glad to see ya :) - (rusty) - (2)
                         Re: Hey, glad to see ya :) - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             Don't forget INTERCAL - (admin)
                 Smells like ad hominem. - (marlowe) - (4)
                     Speaking of sniping at the messenger... - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                         An Ad Hominem for an Ad Hominem - (rusty)
                     I love archaeology. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                         Ah.. fossils. - (Ashton)
             No, that's an observation of an overall pattern. - (marlowe) - (2)
                 Reading this... - (pwhysall)
                 Where to begin - (kmself)
             Nope kinda like bens answer, went and wasnt amused/enthused -NT - (boxley)
         I read the article in question, I am not a MS$ fan - (boxley) - (1)
             Missing the forest for the trees. - (marlowe)

Bestowing a cruddy-green patina to this over-polished line of deductive reasoning.
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