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New Top high end never test well
But then they probably aren't going to do well in life either, unless they have a caretaker.

But the next level down, the level who can read into the test the meaning of what the test writer intended, these people will go far because they can think at multiple levels and apply it. Which occasionally means dumbing down for the audience.

Which really is the truest test of intelligence, isn't it? At least in the ability to survive in a society of people who don't like other people who are too smart.
New Survival skill = intelligence?
Kepler was battered from pillar to post his entire life, narrowly avoiding starvation at times. So it's not self-evident, but I mostly agree.

For sheer mental agility, nothing comes close to great chess players. Most of the ones I've met were total losers. The greatest player ever, Bobby Fischer, was totally tunes. The second, Alekhine, was a drunkard, a philaderer, and a cheat.

I think I'd define intelligence in the broadest sense as adaptability. After all, that is OUR human animal skill. Too bad you can't make a test that depended on scenario-making.
-drl
New KISS
I believe that the objection to "IQ" tests can be seen with just a reminder of the idea of "scale". IQ is a Purple Herring.

ie it is utterly Absurd! - to imagine reducing a human package to ANY fucking NUMBER; that this kultur believes you can, and also makes many life-affecting decisions (about a one and her chances) based on such idiocy, tells us all we need to know about "digital-think".. the realm of Billy n'Bally, white/black and "faith based science".

Now.. were there a category of "BIQ" .. Bizness IQ, then Dilbert's little vignettes *could* be numbered. It would be more meaningful since [I posit] dumbth is ever more immediately apparent to the observer than is brilliance.

rest case
     Cute IQ test - (broomberg) - (95)
         Heh - (deSitter)
         My score - (orion) - (5)
             It's vacuous - (deSitter) - (4)
                 Only when someone you don't like scores well - (broomberg) - (3)
                     Re: Only when someone you don't like scores well - (deSitter) - (1)
                         I got it - (orion)
                     Being a Gemini - (orion)
         Got "document contains no data" for my trouble. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (8)
             you mean your brain? -NT - (deSitter) - (7)
                 ROFL! - (a6l6e6x) - (6)
                     Standard problem with these tests - (broomberg) - (5)
                         Re: Standard problem with these tests - (deSitter) - (4)
                             Some cultural bias. - (admin) - (3)
                                 Top high end never test well - (broomberg) - (2)
                                     Survival skill = intelligence? - (deSitter) - (1)
                                         KISS - (Ashton)
         brain brammage - (boxley)
         Ditto on that. - (folkert) - (6)
             I like the pattern progression - (broomberg) - (2)
                 Re: I like the pattern progression - (deSitter) - (1)
                     No... - (folkert)
             Mensa entry was 140 - (broomberg) - (1)
                 ObGroucho - (deSitter)
             Ditto on the ditto - (bepatient)
         Stupid test. - (admin) - (20)
             Yes but - (broomberg) - (19)
                 That's why you have specific tests - (deSitter) - (7)
                     Math? - (broomberg) - (6)
                         Made my point - (deSitter)
                         car problem - (Steve Lowe) - (4)
                             I knew the name - (broomberg)
                             Uhh... Yeah! - (folkert) - (1)
                                 Yers is prettier, mine is wordier :) -NT - (Steve Lowe)
                             Easier. - (Another Scott)
                 That's why you need someone to give the test. -NT - (admin)
                 Another problem with this test: - (admin) - (9)
                     Agreed - (broomberg) - (8)
                         I think the max on this one is probably fairly low. -NT - (admin) - (7)
                             Agreed - (broomberg) - (5)
                                 By comparison: - (admin) - (4)
                                     gotta be timed - (deSitter) - (3)
                                         Couldn't possibly be timed. - (admin) - (2)
                                             Re: Couldn't possibly be timed. - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                 Different weightings - (broomberg)
                             Agreed - Dupe - (broomberg)
         133 - (Steve Lowe) - (1)
             133 - same here, but I'm an 'Insightful Linguist' apparently - (Meerkat)
         Good way to waste time. Addendum. - (Another Scott) - (1)
             sqrt (-1) - (deSitter)
         Feh - (cforde)
         Re: Cute IQ test - (Nightowl)
         142 - I'm a "Visionary Philosopher". Sheesh. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         I can live with "your Intellectual Type is a Facts Curator". - (CRConrad)
         135 means you didn't get any wrong. -NT - (FuManChu) - (7)
             How is that possible? -NT - (admin) - (6)
                 It was my score, and I didn't get any wrong. :D -NT - (FuManChu) - (4)
                     Nope. Scott and Ben both beat us. -NT - (broomberg) - (3)
                         Got it up to 144 - (admin) - (1)
                             QED :) -NT - (deSitter)
                         They got higher scores, not the same thing. -NT - (FuManChu)
                 Cosmic rays -NT - (deSitter)
         Those are GMAT questions - (tuberculosis) - (6)
             What's that? - (deSitter)
             *snicker* - (admin) - (4)
                 Yup, and you KNOW how big mine is - (broomberg) - (3)
                     100 * squares - (admin) - (1)
                         As Ben screams in the distance - (broomberg)
                     Perfect squares -NT - (deSitter)
         I didn't take the time to take it. So do I pass? -NT - (drewk)
         I saw it ages ago - (ben_tilly)
         My IQ is... - (pwhysall) - (7)
             Give it a fake one, knob. - (admin) - (2)
                 Like I care. You suck. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                     bite me you pitiful 'neer -NT - (deSitter)
             In case you missed it in the initial post - (Nightowl) - (3)
                 If it's too stupid to require a real email address... - (pwhysall) - (2)
                     Ahh, failure to follow instructions - (broomberg) - (1)
                         One Hundred Percent. - (pwhysall)
         The wife got 144 - "Visionary Philosopher" -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
             Wow, you must be quite a guy! - (CRConrad) - (1)
                 Ha! :-) She's a catch. I don't know about me.... -NT - (Another Scott)
         Took it again, deliberately answered all wrong - (admin) - (5)
             "Blind Hog" - or "Visionless Porker" -NT - (deSitter)
             seriously - (deSitter) - (2)
                 I assume morons can't read - (broomberg) - (1)
                     Also, interesting typo - (broomberg)
             This is very good - (broomberg)
         Java Servlet Exception - (Silverlock) - (3)
             That means you win a prize, dunnit? -NT - (pwhysall)
             Holy Crow! It's been IWeThey'd! -NT - (jake123) - (1)
                 :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
         culturally biased internet intelligence test (new thread) - (boxley)
         Story re "IQ Testing LLC" - (Ashton) - (2)
             Why does it seem - (broomberg) - (1)
                 ..Prefer a slow simmer to a tacky boil, I guess ;-) -NT - (Ashton)

My own limited experience with his work has struck me as being despondent in tone. I get that, but if I wanted to be hopeless and depressed about the state of the world I would just listen to the voices in my head.
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