As a matter of fact, it *is* on the line.

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Post #12,757

by marlowe

10/10/01 7:25:36 PM

As a matter of fact, it *is* on the line.

These people have demonstrated by both word and deed that they are unwilling to tolerate the existence of anything but their own culture. And they have demonstrated by their organization and ingenuity that containment is not likely to succeed.

The sun may rise in the morning, but on what sort of world?

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Post #12,770

by inthane-chan

10/10/01 8:12:59 PM

Not on theirs.

We have the resources, and the will, to make sure they don't win, without losing our society. I am sure of it. There is just too much of the world that doesn't agree with them, or has too much to lose by agreeing with them, to keep them from winning.

The real problem isn't stomping out this manifestation of the disease. The real problem is curing it before our toys (read:weapons) get so nasty that the next manifestation of the disease wipes us all out.

Stop treating the symptoms, without treating the cause.

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

According to a Russian TV correspondent in Pakistan... - (Arkadiy) - (76) - Oct. 7, 2001, 10:30:44 PM EDT

Indeed - (deSitter) - (75) - Oct. 7, 2001, 11:29:27 PM EDT

Speaking of the Times of India - (Ric Locke) - (64) - Oct. 7, 2001, 11:56:26 PM EDT

Good Sites on Pakistan History, Culture, Politics - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 8, 2001, 12:07:39 AM EDT

one out of 2 aint bad :) -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 8, 2001, 08:43:40 AM EDT

one out of 2 aint bad :) -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 8, 2001, 08:43:58 AM EDT

More Good Stuff - (deSitter) - (59) - Oct. 8, 2001, 12:22:37 AM EDT

Re: Great Source - more on next trouble spot - Indonesia - (dmarker2) - (58) - Oct. 8, 2001, 01:16:29 AM EDT

Re: Additional perspective on Indonesia from US sources - (dmarker2) - (57) - Oct. 8, 2001, 01:23:40 AM EDT

Trying to discover an overview is rarely successful during, - (Ashton) - (56) - Oct. 8, 2001, 02:53:30 AM EDT

I'll try... - (screamer) - (55) - Oct. 8, 2001, 10:40:40 AM EDT

Perhaps begs the question (?) - (Ashton) - (54) - Oct. 8, 2001, 03:51:10 PM EDT

You, a fatalist? I never would have guessed... - (screamer) - (53) - Oct. 8, 2001, 06:26:30 PM EDT

Life is a fatal condition - (Ashton) - (52) - Oct. 8, 2001, 07:09:34 PM EDT

That, my friend, is the million dollar question... - (screamer) - (51) - Oct. 9, 2001, 10:17:43 AM EDT

Well.. OK just so long as - (Ashton) - (50) - Oct. 9, 2001, 01:42:14 PM EDT

In the final analysis, at this particular point in - (screamer) - (49) - Oct. 9, 2001, 05:56:48 PM EDT

As said: as a tactic, prolly necessary a bit, such as we are - (Ashton) - (48) - Oct. 9, 2001, 06:50:42 PM EDT

What you said. - (inthane-chan) - (47) - Oct. 10, 2001, 11:55:05 AM EDT

Nietzsche also believed in superman... - (screamer) - (46) - Oct. 10, 2001, 03:31:25 PM EDT

I doubt he believed in Superman... - (inthane-chan) - (10) - Oct. 10, 2001, 04:39:21 PM EDT

Couple of factual points.... - (addison) - (6) - Oct. 10, 2001, 05:04:39 PM EDT

Hitler not threatening? - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Oct. 10, 2001, 05:41:18 PM EDT

It's Laughable, Isn't it? - (deSitter) - Oct. 11, 2001, 12:21:21 AM EDT

Not to the US culture, no. - (addison) - (1) - Oct. 11, 2001, 10:48:06 AM EDT

Re: Not to the US culture, no. - (Arkadiy) - Oct. 11, 2001, 02:50:22 PM EDT

Guess I'm demonizing myself as well... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2001, 06:57:02 PM EDT

Its all context. - (addison) - Oct. 11, 2001, 11:09:01 AM EDT

I'm only gonna say this once... - (screamer) - Oct. 10, 2001, 06:49:39 PM EDT

As a matter of fact, it *is* on the line. - (marlowe) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2001, 07:25:36 PM EDT

Not on theirs. - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 10, 2001, 08:12:59 PM EDT

No He Didn't - (deSitter) - (34) - Oct. 10, 2001, 11:04:12 PM EDT

Yo, Ubermenschkopf, do you have a clue? - (screamer) - (33) - Oct. 10, 2001, 11:56:52 PM EDT

Pitiful - (deSitter) - (32) - Oct. 11, 2001, 12:02:09 AM EDT

Fair enough... - (screamer) - (31) - Oct. 11, 2001, 12:23:36 AM EDT

I Have Gained My Religion - (deSitter) - (4) - Oct. 11, 2001, 12:34:43 AM EDT

I wish I had the answers... - (screamer) - (3) - Oct. 11, 2001, 12:54:55 AM EDT

Likely a wise decision re nihilism.. and other -isms. - (Ashton) - (2) - Oct. 11, 2001, 03:06:04 AM EDT

Extremes/Extremists get the most attention - (Steven A S) - (1) - Oct. 11, 2001, 01:36:00 PM EDT

Thou sayest: so long as the noise drowns out the wise(r) :[ -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 11, 2001, 03:00:20 PM EDT

Ah, thanks... - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 11, 2001, 04:09:52 AM EDT

The taaaaglinnnnnnnnneeeeee...... - (screamer) - Oct. 11, 2001, 10:12:43 AM EDT

Thanks Dan for turning into an incognito asshole - (deSitter) - (23) - Oct. 11, 2001, 11:16:23 AM EDT

Wow. - (pwhysall) - Oct. 11, 2001, 12:37:52 PM EDT

Now it's gettin personal... - (screamer) - (16) - Oct. 11, 2001, 01:03:32 PM EDT

I don't get it, Dan - (Ashton) - (8) - Oct. 11, 2001, 02:00:59 PM EDT

I think you do know... - (screamer) - Oct. 11, 2001, 02:59:49 PM EDT

OK, sorry... - (CRConrad) - (6) - Oct. 11, 2001, 05:16:31 PM EDT

Yup. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Oct. 11, 2001, 05:23:53 PM EDT

Which kind'a proves two things. No, three: - (CRConrad) - (3) - Oct. 11, 2001, 06:16:26 PM EDT

I don't think deSitter had malice a-forethought. Forgetful? -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 11, 2001, 06:29:47 PM EDT

less see according to psych 101 and posts here n there - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 11, 2001, 10:57:31 PM EDT

Agreed. Pity that he didn't mention this last ugly event - (Ashton) - Oct. 12, 2001, 04:11:31 PM EDT

Barb? - (Ashton) - Oct. 11, 2001, 05:24:34 PM EDT

Really? - (deSitter) - (6) - Oct. 11, 2001, 02:20:51 PM EDT

Please... - (screamer) - (5) - Oct. 11, 2001, 03:12:45 PM EDT

Too Many Scars - (deSitter) - (4) - Oct. 11, 2001, 04:35:14 PM EDT

Friends will be here if you change your mind. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 11, 2001, 05:04:02 PM EDT

Wot 'e said. - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 11, 2001, 05:11:41 PM EDT

I wish you well. - (Ashton) - Oct. 11, 2001, 05:37:55 PM EDT

I've had days like that. - (marlowe) - Oct. 11, 2001, 05:52:45 PM EDT

Which kind of remark strongly suggests - (Ashton) - Oct. 11, 2001, 01:26:35 PM EDT

There are some people too stupid to live. -NT - (wharris2) - (3) - Oct. 11, 2001, 01:46:11 PM EDT

Now, now. ... - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 11, 2001, 01:50:43 PM EDT

You Bet I'm Angry - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 11, 2001, 02:09:18 PM EDT

Sorry about your loss. - (Another Scott) - Oct. 11, 2001, 02:33:01 PM EDT

Re: A worrying part of the attack - the casualty reports ... - (dmarker2) - Oct. 8, 2001, 12:32:13 AM EDT

Re: Certainly a big worry ... Pakis in awful position ... - (dmarker2) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2001, 12:15:55 AM EDT

Side note - (pwhysall) - Oct. 11, 2001, 07:15:45 PM EDT

Re: Indeed - (Arkadiy) - (7) - Oct. 8, 2001, 10:07:42 AM EDT

Nope - (deSitter) - (6) - Oct. 8, 2001, 12:36:13 PM EDT

Low maybe... - (bepatient) - (3) - Oct. 8, 2001, 12:41:54 PM EDT

Impossible - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 8, 2001, 12:56:52 PM EDT

Re: Impossible - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 8, 2001, 01:14:50 PM EDT

Oops...you're right...my thinking was B1B -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 8, 2001, 01:53:07 PM EDT

True. On the other hand . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 8, 2001, 01:07:03 PM EDT

Who has "air forse or significant SAM capability" ... - (Arkadiy) - Oct. 8, 2001, 03:22:47 PM EDT

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