PMView Pro

Post #109,273 by Andrew Grygus 7/11/03 1:31:06 PM Reply	PMView Pro PMView Pro (available for Windows & OS/2) has the ability to run conversion scripts for mass unatended conversion between a huge number of formats. Besides that, [link\|http://www.pmview.com/\|PMView] is the best, easiest, fastest and most flexible image viewer-manipulator I've ever seen and worth far more than the $40 it costs. If folks had PMView there just wouldn't be dark and difficult to see pictures like from the NJ party. Slide up the brightness, slide gamma down to restore color intensity - takes a couple seconds. Cropping, color balance, rotation, all just as easy. Save in any format you like, with full GIF, PNG and JPG options. Caviat: saves .eps (encapsulated postscript) but can't read it due to unacceptable licensing terms. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #109,278 by drewk 7/11/03 1:42:16 PM Reply	You didn't see the originals If folks had PMView there just wouldn't be dark and difficult to see pictures like from the NJ party. Several of them were taken after dark, some with no flash. And the ones that did have flash, the cheezy flash on the camera only reaches about 6-8 feet. As for focus, the things takes forever to focus, so it's really not good for action shots, like the one of Bill climbing out of the pool. (One of the things I hate about auto-focus. It decides when it's focussed, and it decides when/if to snap the picture.) I took some of those through PhotoShop. The image detail just wasn't there to bring up. I'm not a graphics pro, but I used to play one in the Marines, so I do know my way around brightness and gamma. Any more detail than what's there and you'd have to have the magic software they use in movies to pull a license plate out of five pixels. Okay, the ones where the guys were under the umbrella and the pool was behind them I could have selected the foreground, feathered the edge, and brightened that without washing out the background. But they're just some candids. Like I said when I put up the link, if anyone wahts to prettify them better I can send you the originals. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #109,286 by Andrew Grygus 7/11/03 2:04:03 PM 7/11/03 2:27:40 PM Reply	OK, I admit . . . . I didn't see the originals. On the other hand, although I confess I did spend a full 30 seconds on it, the [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com/ajg/NJ01.html\|picture on the right] looks better to me. Edit: Ooops. Used the small png instead of the larjer jpg. corrected. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx] Edited by Andrew Grygus July 11, 2003, 02:27:40 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #109,288 by drewk 7/11/03 2:12:10 PM Reply	Then you spent three times what I did And I also resized and cropped it. Besides, I chose to leave the faces a little darker than ideal so as not to wash out the background so much. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #109,298 by Andrew Grygus 7/11/03 2:29:03 PM Reply	Then we have differences of artistic interpretation. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #109,304 by drewk 7/11/03 3:11:51 PM Reply	Wow, that's darker in the browser That looked a lot better in PhotoShop. Guess I'll have to fix them again, that is darker than I wanted. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #109,307 by drewk 7/11/03 3:33:33 PM Reply	Here's a new version [link\|http://dkime.com/pics/BeePBash/20030705-002.jpg\|This one] I did select just the foreground and adjust that. But I also used the default compression setting on the software that came with the camera the first time I did it. So I'd have to start over from the original if I wanted to improve it. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #109,308 by Andrew Grygus 7/11/03 4:01:29 PM Reply	Much better [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #109,321 by deSitter 7/11/03 5:18:38 PM Reply	compliment Your cropping skills are first rate. Ever do "real" photography? -drl
Post #109,559 by drewk 7/14/03 9:57:19 AM Reply	Yup I was editor of the base newspaper while in the Marines. "Editor" there was more what the civilian world would call, "copy editor, graphics, design, layout, writer management, every-damn-thing-except-final-editorial-control guy". So yeah, I did digital photo processing for a living for a couple years. But before that, I did real real photography as photo editor for my high school yearbook. Yeah, high school, but I could put a head on a different body in the darkroom with real negatives and real photo paper and you couldn't see the edges. Damn that took some practice. I could've gotten a job with the Weekly World News. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.

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