prolly should get bluke to answer but will give it a shot

Post #9,565 by boxley 9/17/01 11:04:38 PM Reply	prolly should get bluke to answer but will give it a shot The places of various settlements have various reasons for existing. Prior to WW1 the Zionist movement as such was to get euro jews to move back to the homelands. The idea was to buy land for collective farms known as kibbutz (yea buncha commies :)) In 1927 a buncha these folks who had paid cash for their dirt were massacried all over the place. WW2 and the arabs liked the germans better than the brits (because the brits took the place over after WW1) and the germans lost trying to kill every Jew in europe. People in America etc were shocked that germans almost were able to do what they would too embarrased to do in their own countries (except for russia who wasnt embarrased a bit for trying to kill theirs)So allowed a country called israel in the place that jews paid for the dirt and co-incedentally was a small part of the biblical homeland. Well the local in charge didnt think much of that as they wanted to be in charge as usual. The brits being famous ass bandits and poufs prefered arab boys over israli men and allowed the arabs to indiscriminately attack Jews with heavy armor while assidiously arresting every jew in sight with a slingshot. After blowing up the King David Hotel (after taking pictures of Brits and their unwilling underage arab partners) the state of israel was declared. Israel was immediately attacked by Egypt, Jordan, Syria who informed the local Palestinian Populace to evacuate because they were going to kill all the Jews. Using artillery, airstrikes, tanks and heavy weapons against a Jewish Army consisting of handguns a few assault rifles, civvy vehicles and people who didnt understand the language being pushed to the front of the fighting, told to pick up weapons off the dead if they survived. Led by an American US non Jew General the managed not to lose all of Jerusalem and survived. The settlements are those who want want was taken between WW1 and WW2. Me I say wait, a hundred years give or take 10 is worth a peace now. Because if the Israelis roll over, the pals will step up attacks to again kill all the jews and once and for all, back to the wall the problem will be settled without any Palestinians to deal with. They want this we dont. Hey you xian guys! can ya step up the second coming sh*t! this is getting old!:) thanx, bill why did god give us a talleywhacker and a trigger finger if he didnt want us to use them? Randy Wayne White
Post #9,591 by tablizer 9/18/01 8:22:23 AM Reply	But if you sign a contract in which you promise to do X, what happend before that time is irrelavent WRT your current obligations. ________________ oop.ismad.com
Post #9,777 by boxley 9/19/01 9:17:58 PM Reply	Want to whine about contracts boyyo Where is the contract your government signed in 1980 ANILCA that promised title to aboriginal land in Alaska? Where the fuck are the deeds? Where is the 70+ billion dollars that you took from renting our land out to whites( in the last 50 yrs) and put the money in the general fund because you were too fucking stupid to tell the treasury department who to write the checks too!! The fscking Indians who are the poorest group in the nation was the ones who bailed out the savings and loans disaster with the Indians cash!!! The federal courts have a contempt order against the BIA for shredding unsent checks, some almost 100 yrs old!! Fix your own shames before ya start whining about the other folk thanx, bill why did god give us a talleywhacker and a trigger finger if he didnt want us to use them? Randy Wayne White
Post #10,044 by CRConrad 9/21/01 3:02:16 AM Reply	Say what you want about the U.S.A... ...but at least they aren't currently killing Injuns at the rate of several hundred (or several thousand?) per year. That's the biggest difference in the relations between America and those she has cheated out of contracts, and Israel and those she has. Wow, who'd'a thunk it -- me defending "The Great Satan" against the Ox! Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
Post #10,078 by inthane-chan 9/21/01 11:08:28 AM Reply	Yup. Y'see, we've already beaten our native populations into submission, and they didn't have anywhere else to run to for reinforcements. We don't need to support mass murder anymore to keep our minorities in line. Just the occasional police-inflicted beating. (No, it's not that simple, but be careful who you compare to Israel - we've got a few skeletons in our closets as well, as Bill will tell ya...) "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #10,180 by boxley 9/21/01 10:41:29 PM Reply	they arnt? }:-> substandard medical care for the natives, to the point of criminal. Storing toxic stuff near their homes because they cant legally complain. The highest percentage of population behind bars (in some area's) despite being less than 2% of the population. All human trials of medicine in the US is carried out on Indians before release to the humans. Maybe they dont shoot them down in the streets but is damn close. thanx, bill why did god give us a talleywhacker and a trigger finger if he didnt want us to use them? Randy Wayne White
Post #10,212 by tablizer 9/22/01 2:58:36 PM Reply	The devil is in the details >> All human trials of medicine in the US is carried out on Indians before release to the humans. << That is a rather extreme claim. Do you have any evidence for this happening recently? Anyhow, it often seems that when one looks closely at the contracts, the slick lawyers out-lawyer the poorer lawyers using creative interpretation and fine print. It is not outright contract breach. ________________ oop.ismad.com
Post #10,240 by boxley 9/22/01 9:11:11 PM Reply	yes, have you had a hep C vacine? It was tested on my family among others for the human trials. All other vaccines are also tested on Indians first. thanx, bill why did god give us a talleywhacker and a trigger finger if he didnt want us to use them? Randy Wayne White
Post #10,241 by ben_tilly 9/22/01 9:20:03 PM Reply	I know there have been serious abuses... but I still think that "all" is a bit extreme of a claim. Cheers, Ben
Post #10,243 by boxley 9/22/01 9:26:39 PM Reply	yes all, it is explained to us that since we have the highest incidences of "insert disease name here" it is to our people benefit to trial it. If you dont agree you are hounded by social workers. At least they tell us now 20 yrs ago they just gave them to you. BIA Indian Health Service government medicine at your service. thanx, bill why did god give us a talleywhacker and a trigger finger if he didnt want us to use them? Randy Wayne White

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