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New No its not.
Or do you think these all "spontaneous".

Even you aren't that dense. Digress away
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

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New Now we get to.. Suddenly it's 1950
Look Beep - that phrase is from the same slogan-factory as invented "Commies / queers in our schools tryin to subvert naive students to their Evil Way of Life\ufffd" cha cha cha.
It is also a subset of the mindset (at root) "Our 'democracy' is so fragile.. we dare not let innocents be exposed to rebuttals, suggestions or outright Other! Schemes\ufffd" ie We Are Such Children!

In your present example, clearly inferred is: "that none/few/a lot fewer/ people would Want to protest against this scheduled war' lessen duped into it. Being easily led: these suggestible folks Went Along With Commyunists -- ergo their protest is now dev/null [How Very Convenient]. How very didgithink. How very bogus, especially on its reiteration over the decades.

Those of us who heard this crap the *first* time around - are rather sensitive to its latest cant-form. It's so so Econ-like in its simplistic implications, y'know?



Ashton

PS - are most people inept at organizing demonstrations? Yes they/we are. Does 'organizing' a demonstration mean any more than: Porta-potties, maybe buses are needed when (X>'a few') people congregate ??

Personally I don't give a fuck if a Cthulhuist or even a {Christian} organizes A March to Demonstrate My Opposition to [A Government Action] \ufffd. I need not sacrifice A) a virgin or B) my conscience to pop-God Machiavelli -- in the first or second option.
New I wonder how many...
...in being "organized" this way, have donated to causes that they would >never< support...all in the name of "peace".

Noone was "duped" into protesting. They went of their own free will.

The organizers were less than forthright in providing details of who they are and what they stand for. Witness, as has been stated several times, the reaction of some of these fine Americans when confronted with the reality of the situation.

My position is simple..and completely opposite of what you pretend it to be. In your (mangled) language...the "innocents" deserve all of the facts. Facts that have been deliberately hidden from them in order to further an agenda that they >may< not want furthered.

You further try to imply that I somehow nullify the honest opinions held by the protesters. Nice try. They have every right to their opinion and my respect of it.

They also have every right to be informed of who they are with..and who is calling the shots..and should they donate cash...what that cash will be used for.

Do you think that fine, upstanding American who was so offended by Rush's statements would sit well with knowing that money raised at these functions is used to attempt to free a convicted cop-killer, for example?

Do you think, at least, that this man has a right to know this?
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

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New This is just delicious
My position is simple..and completely opposite of what you pretend it to be. In your (mangled) language...the "innocents" deserve all of the facts. Facts that have been deliberately hidden from them in order to further an agenda that they >may< not want furthered.


Just what is happenning with that whitewash^H^H^H^H^H^H^H investigative committee to determine how 9/11 could have happened?
Who was on the energy advisory committe to determine this nation's energy policy?
And on and on and on......
How many lives per gallon?
--Sign outside of various churches
New And this has precisely what to do with anything?
Are you inventing something?
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

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New Nope.
Just pointing out something I find ironic.
How many lives per gallon?
--Sign outside of various churches
New Ironic in what sense?


You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Oh, come on.
facts hidden from those who need them to make informed choices. You see it in anti-gov forces. I see it in our own gov as well.
How many lives per gallon?
--Sign outside of various churches
New No question.
Just pressing to make sure.

Why?

Because (hold on to your chair)...I happen to agree that it exists inside and outside the beltway.

So we agree. Don't let it happen again. Move along. Nothing to see here ;)
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
     Hate to do it... - (bepatient) - (42)
         Given that Churchill is compared to Bush, you - (a6l6e6x) - (11)
             Churchill was no gnat. - (marlowe) - (3)
                 That's cute. - (Brandioch) - (2)
                     Irony is wasted on the stupid. - (marlowe) - (1)
                         I will now explain "irony" to you. - (Brandioch)
             I can see you didn't read very closely. - (bepatient) - (6)
                 Re: quick rejection of ideas? - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                     A false premise based upon the quick dismissal -NT - (bepatient)
                 Re: zionist pawns and such. - (a6l6e6x) - (3)
                     If G_d didnt want the Jews to have the land back - (boxley)
                     Nice read, although one "obvious" thing eludes the author. - (mmoffitt)
                     Recursive traps are so.. so jejeune? - (Ashton)
         I like the strange bedfellows part - (boxley) - (29)
             Left schmeft - bloody labels that merely serve to ... - (dmarker) - (3)
                 lets talk about them - (boxley)
                 Yes...lets. - (bepatient) - (1)
                     Wrong: NOT "enemies of the United States" - (Ashton)
             You need to check your facts. - (Brandioch) - (24)
                 not my facts pal, a quote from the link - (boxley) - (4)
                     So you're saying you don't agree with that? - (Brandioch) - (3)
                         I got yer balls right here - (boxley) - (2)
                             Damn. And no one took my bet. :( - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                 poor baby, -NT - (boxley)
                 Hmm. - (bepatient) - (18)
                     I like this quote - (boxley)
                     Only an Econ-minor could make this leap - (Ashton) - (16)
                         Dunno what the degree was... - (bepatient) - (13)
                             Give me an "e"! -NT - (bepatient)
                             You 'read' OK; it's your logic that's rilly Econ-fluffy - (Ashton) - (11)
                                 Nothing like that. - (bepatient) - (10)
                                     Odd you should mention "machines underneath" - (Ashton) - (9)
                                         No its not. - (bepatient) - (8)
                                             Now we get to.. Suddenly it's 1950 - (Ashton) - (7)
                                                 I wonder how many... - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                     This is just delicious - (Silverlock) - (5)
                                                         And this has precisely what to do with anything? - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                             Nope. - (Silverlock) - (3)
                                                                 Ironic in what sense? - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                     Oh, come on. - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                                                         No question. - (bepatient)
                         I can explain that. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                             you mean like this? - (boxley)

It's no worse an idea than Napoleon invading Russia, or New Coke.
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