Post #53,493
9/27/02 10:11:36 AM
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Make your bookmark or homepage = this
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/login?redirectURL=http%3a//z.iwethey.org/forums/render/board/show%3fboardid%3d1|http://z.iwethey.or...fboardid%3d1]
That is all one line. And you'll be prompted everytime you come here first...
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Just continue to type on your keyboard, and we'll just sample your DNA.
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Post #53,494
9/27/02 10:16:16 AM
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Nifty, thanks
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Post #53,505
9/27/02 11:07:45 AM
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Re: Make your bookmark or homepage = this
Good enough. Clever.
But this brings on a rant.
Example - Drew has an issue with Samba that he resolves by getting a static IP. It works, but it's the wrong answer.
This software Scott made is so good, the suggestion could be easily implemented. You have a workaround, but it's the wrong answer.
These are minor, even trivial issues in themselves - but I've noticed in IT work that accepting one small wrong answer leads to accepting more and more of them, until one has accumulated a lot of small wrong answers that result in a total system that is a confusing hodgepodge of ad hoc solutions. One has to resist the temptation to implement workarounds. This syndrome seems to be killing Linux distros - I've tried RedHat, Mandrake, and now SuSE and they all reached a point at which they were top-heavy with compromises.
Local example - I'm working with PDF forms and I want the users to have the simplest possible experience. One form is a five-page drilldown that traditionally has been done on the typewriter. I only want the users to see the first, non-printing page and not the drilldowns. I *could* just tell them to print pages 2-5, and to ignore the somewhat odd display of the redundant pages in Acrobat Reader - but it's the wrong answer. The user should only see the first page and should never have to do anything but punch the "Print" button.
-eor-
-drl
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Post #53,508
9/27/02 11:13:00 AM
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Wrong, sorry.
And I've been over this before; my apologies to those of you who have read this explanation previously.
The authentication method used here is a plug-in for Zope: not written by me, and not maintained by me. Rewriting it to do the sorts of things you want it to do is certainly within my abilities, but the project is non-trivial and therefore unlikely to get done within my current time constraints. There are a lot of similar projects here that could be done in the same time frame, but are also not likely to get done for the same reason.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #53,516
9/27/02 11:40:36 AM
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Re: Wrong, sorry.
You did understand that I meant
1) Browse to this site
2) Instead of clicking "Login" link, just click on a forum and *then* put up the login screen.
This is a simple check "is user logged in?" I don't mean persistent logins, because you explained before that it was not something you wanted to do.
-drl
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Post #53,517
9/27/02 11:47:33 AM
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Yes, I did understand.
To do what you want properly I need to add cookies to track login names.
Your method would force people to register merely to browse the forums, which I do not wish to do.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #53,533
9/27/02 12:31:07 PM
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OK enough said
-drl
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Post #53,518
9/27/02 11:51:27 AM
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Does that mean...
...that those who wish to browse the forum without logging in will be pestered by a request for logging in every time they enter a forum?
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Post #53,515
9/27/02 11:39:33 AM
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IT practices...
This industry has ALWAYS been about compromises, Ross. You know that. I know that. Microsoft knows it, but won't acknowledge it.
You talk as though it endemic for JUST linux. Nope.
HP-UX is a compromise betwixt the three main threads of UNIX, using pieces-parts from them all.
AIX, is just plain bad in places, Great in others, "ehhh" in yet other areas.
Tru64 what I call *THE* REAL UNIX, is great in most areas except, easy management of resources... sheesh.
Solaris, well I have only one term for it... CF. (it's just me I know, but DAM!) it compromises nearly everywhere trying to be all things everywhere.
IRIX, mmm creamy goodness, a bit too creamy though as it lacks some core functionality I seek from the get go, you have to buy the extras usually included (this may have changed in recent years).
OSX to sweet for all of us period, Apple get over yourself.
*BSD (yes, I'll lump them together) a take off on Tru64, they work well, do good work, but...but... well... just look at it, you'll understand... compromises to make things work... not optimal anywhere.
Windows? let's really not proceed there... as we all know they are the KING of compromises... literally. So much so that sometimes thing WON'T work period.
Linux, Jack of all trades, master of none... There-in lies your rub.
You see, the path Linux has sorta chosen is everything, everywhere, anytime, anyplace. Just like Windows, but *AT LEAST* peer review is bringing it together better than M$. Other OSes have chosen thier battle and stood firm there. Specializing in those areas... (barring Sun's)
I say, I'll use anything that does the work it needs to, when it needs to, reliably. Windows fits that sometimes, Linux does that also, nearly any OS will do that.
greg - Grand-Master Artist in IT,
curley95@attbi.com -- [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!]
Your friendly Homeland Security Officer reminds:
Hold Thumbprint to Screen for 5 seconds, we'll take the imprint, or
Just continue to type on your keyboard, and we'll just sample your DNA.
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Post #53,638
9/27/02 11:48:51 PM
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see you in flame quarantine!!!!!!!!!
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qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
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Post #53,530
9/27/02 12:28:32 PM
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So what's the right answer?
I've explained why I think that "run the SAMBA daemons" is the wrong answer for me. I've also said that it looks like I should be able to do this with the smbclient.[1] That's how it seems to have been done in Corel Linux, but they had their own tool for it. Since I don't want to run a potentially insecure service, and I can't get the client utility to work properly, my choices are: get the static IP or try to keep the machine up so the DHCP lease never renews and I don't have to go look anything up. Since the whole point of DHCP is to allow machines to renew leases, I don't like that idea. Which leaves me with ... static IP.
Unless you can tell me how to get the smbclient to handle this?
[1] This is IMO the "right" way to do this.
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Post #53,532
9/27/02 12:29:49 PM
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Keep this discussion out of Suggestions please.
I'd like to keep the S/N ration down in here. :-)
I'm not ragging on you per se, Drew, since you didn't start it... just making my wishes known.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #53,536
9/27/02 12:34:53 PM
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Will do
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Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978|Andrew Grygus]
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