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Post #48,026
by broomberg
8/4/02 10:08:32 AM
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New Dunno
I't been so song since I've made that decision
I don't remember why. Sorry. It has gone
from a reasoned decision to cargo cult
programming.

I just flipped pages until I saw an open
example and it included an 'or dir' construct.
I won't claim all of them do.

You MUST have Programming Perl (CAMEL). There
is no choice. Nobody wanders perldoc and
hits on things serendipitiously. But you
can do that in flipping around in the book
in the bathroom. Just commit to carrying
the book for a month, and you become amazed
what the language can do.

Also, yes on the Cookbook. I still pull
it out occasionally. I love it.
Post #48,104
by ben_tilly
8/5/02 6:56:34 AM
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New Perhaps...
I will admit that my introduction to Perl was picking up Programming Perl, getting less than a half-dozen pages through it, and my wife asked me what I wsa laughing about. After that I was clearly doomed. (Appreciating the humor is essential. For instance they have a simple test-grader and a comment about how it won't work properly if "Carol" appears twice. Carol was one of the few names that didn't appear twice in the sample input.)

But after a couple of years I went from Programming Perl to perldoc. You can grep online documents, and there is more there. And when I picked up a "free" copy of the third edition, I never read it.

However I still know the second edition well-enough to pick up a copy and quickly find the right page to settle arguments. (OTOH I am more likely to give people the appropriate perldoc command an instructions on what string to search for.)

Cheers,
Ben
"Perl is like vice grips. You can do anything with it, and it's the wrong tool for every job."
--Unknown
     Unemployed programmer seeking advice... (Is that all <g>) - (rsteiner) - (62) - July 30, 2002, 01:38:12 PM EDT
         Your list looks OK - (wharris2) - (2) - July 30, 2002, 01:47:26 PM EDT
             Good thoughts... Thanks! - (rsteiner) - (1) - July 30, 2002, 01:55:31 PM EDT
                 c and perl on solaris and linux - (boxley) - July 30, 2002, 02:02:34 PM EDT
         The "in thing" now is canning programmers - (tablizer) - (9) - July 30, 2002, 02:46:25 PM EDT
             IT Rust Belt - by Bob Lewis - (tablizer) - (8) - July 30, 2002, 11:58:59 PM EDT
                 Key point - (broomberg) - Aug. 1, 2002, 09:46:38 AM EDT
                 Writing code is *FUN* for me... - (rsteiner) - (6) - Aug. 1, 2002, 04:28:52 PM EDT
                     Ditto here. - (inthane-chan) - Aug. 1, 2002, 07:29:20 PM EDT
                     I love coding, BUT... - (gdaustin) - Aug. 3, 2002, 12:01:42 PM EDT
                     No slider widget for $ - (tablizer) - (3) - Aug. 7, 2002, 05:30:45 PM EDT
                         Re: No slider widget for $ - (rsteiner) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2002, 05:57:33 PM EDT
                             It isn't whether you mind it more... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2002, 06:25:30 PM EDT
                                 Heh... - (rsteiner) - Aug. 8, 2002, 05:50:18 PM EDT
         Re: Unemployed programmer seeking advice... - (admin) - (8) - July 30, 2002, 03:02:52 PM EDT
             DB2 versus Oracle - (tablizer) - (1) - July 30, 2002, 03:21:00 PM EDT
                 But tab - you're a shoe in! - (gdaustin) - July 30, 2002, 06:13:56 PM EDT
             Where to get Oracle? - (lincoln) - (5) - July 31, 2002, 10:30:46 AM EDT
                 Re: Where to get Oracle? - (admin) - (4) - July 31, 2002, 11:02:27 AM EDT
                     Which is why I like Oracle - (orion) - (3) - July 31, 2002, 11:40:17 AM EDT
                         unless you count time - (tablizer) - (2) - July 31, 2002, 11:06:26 PM EDT
                             Overpaid DBAs? - (broomberg) - (1) - July 31, 2002, 11:27:01 PM EDT
                                 One More Thing - (gdaustin) - Aug. 3, 2002, 11:14:23 AM EDT
         Not a bad list - (tuberculosis) - (2) - July 30, 2002, 03:31:20 PM EDT
             nit fuel - (tablizer) - (1) - July 30, 2002, 05:42:43 PM EDT
                 Yes but those people are wrong :-P -NT - (tuberculosis) - July 31, 2002, 03:25:32 AM EDT
         Unsuprisingly I will suggest picking up a scripting language - (ben_tilly) - (5) - July 30, 2002, 10:10:02 PM EDT
             Thanks, Ben... - (rsteiner) - (4) - Aug. 1, 2002, 04:35:32 PM EDT
                 Re: Thanks, Ben... - (broomberg) - (3) - Aug. 1, 2002, 05:58:57 PM EDT
                     Why not? - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Aug. 1, 2002, 08:51:07 PM EDT
                         Dunno - (broomberg) - (1) - Aug. 4, 2002, 10:08:32 AM EDT
                             Perhaps... - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 5, 2002, 06:56:34 AM EDT
         Teach? - (andread) - (1) - July 31, 2002, 12:50:09 PM EDT
             Not for me, I'm afraid... - (rsteiner) - Aug. 1, 2002, 04:36:14 PM EDT
         Hi! - (deSitter) - (3) - July 31, 2002, 05:06:12 PM EDT
             Requirements for the IT jobs - (orion) - July 31, 2002, 10:13:54 PM EDT
             Hullo! - (rsteiner) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2002, 04:41:30 PM EDT
                 Boo Hoo OS/2 - (deSitter) - Aug. 2, 2002, 09:31:07 AM EDT
         My biased opinion: - (broomberg) - (16) - July 31, 2002, 11:16:22 PM EDT
             Be Specific - (deSitter) - (2) - Aug. 1, 2002, 08:54:59 AM EDT
                 Re: Be Specific - (broomberg) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2002, 09:35:32 AM EDT
                     Danke -NT - (deSitter) - Aug. 1, 2002, 12:38:43 PM EDT
             Re: My biased opinion: - (rsteiner) - (3) - Aug. 1, 2002, 04:53:28 PM EDT
                 Re: My biased opinion: - (broomberg) - (2) - Aug. 1, 2002, 05:49:32 PM EDT
                     Only consider 'C' if you're interested in embedded prog. -NT - (tonytib) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2002, 06:57:34 PM EDT
                         C is still guts of lots of stuff - (wharris2) - Aug. 2, 2002, 01:48:54 PM EDT
             Don't master many, but at least be exposed to several? - (ben_tilly) - (8) - Aug. 1, 2002, 08:47:24 PM EDT
                 I wouldn't - (broomberg) - (7) - Aug. 4, 2002, 11:42:20 AM EDT
                     Query - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Aug. 5, 2002, 07:02:46 AM EDT
                         Poor example - (broomberg) - (5) - Aug. 5, 2002, 07:39:23 PM EDT
                             Haggling - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Aug. 5, 2002, 08:51:00 PM EDT
                                 It's in my blood, I have to - (broomberg) - (3) - Aug. 5, 2002, 09:13:56 PM EDT
                                     I think you missed my reference - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Aug. 5, 2002, 09:52:10 PM EDT
                                         Ahh, ye of little HR experience - (broomberg) - (1) - Aug. 6, 2002, 06:24:27 AM EDT
                                             I would like to believe... - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 6, 2002, 10:46:34 PM EDT
         Try SouthWest Airlines... - (gdaustin) - (5) - Aug. 3, 2002, 12:32:04 PM EDT
             Heh. - (rsteiner) - (4) - Aug. 4, 2002, 02:56:00 AM EDT
                 You might check out the Seagate & such - (tonytib) - (1) - Aug. 4, 2002, 06:51:58 PM EDT
                     It's a thought -- I'll check it out. - (rsteiner) - Aug. 6, 2002, 01:00:50 AM EDT
                 Might try ING or Wells Fargo - (gdaustin) - (1) - Aug. 5, 2002, 10:27:56 PM EDT
                     Not really... - (rsteiner) - Aug. 6, 2002, 01:18:33 AM EDT
         This made me think of you - (broomberg) - (1) - Aug. 5, 2002, 07:47:03 PM EDT
             Heh. :-) - (rsteiner) - Aug. 6, 2002, 01:21:52 AM EDT

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