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Post #47,654 by deSitter 7/31/02 5:06:12 PM Reply	Hi! Haven't seen that moniker since the old IWE days. Matloff points out that hiring practices in IT are so fscked up, it doesn't really matter what you learn. Programmers should be hired by aptitude and not skillset, since any decent programmer can absorb a new idiom in the time it takes to swill down a case of Dr. Pepper. But that's not how people get hired. I turned down a job doing APL because taking it would have meant getting cast as a programmer in a "dead" idiom again. Instead I took a job as God in a small company for less money, so I get to be a DBA, a web designer, help desk manager, system admin, etc. etc. on Windows and on UNIX. This type of IT job will always be needed. -drl
Post #47,685 by orion 7/31/02 10:13:54 PM Reply	Requirements for the IT jobs they changed, and companies are wanting so much more now, than they did in 1997. In 1997 if you had a Two Year Degree you could get hired. In 2002, now, a two year degree gets your resume pitched in the trash unless the HR Department is savvy enough to see your other skills and experience, or if you can somehow get your resume past HR and straight into IT you might stand a chance. Beer Job I applied for required: PGP ASP Visual BASIC IIS Visual Interdev Oracle DHTML Javascript VBScript Crystal Reports Third Party ActiveX Controls COM+ XML SOAP TOAD Netscape Internet Explorer Same job at the company that I applied for in 1997 required: Visual BASIC Javascript VBScript HTML They added on the other technologies later. If the IT Workers don't learn or use these newer technologies, they will be locked out of a lot of jobs. I thought it was interesting that they wanted to use PGP on an FTP Server. I never used it for such, but I did use it for Email and File protection. They said there was rumors that the company that owns PGP will either sell it, or go out of business and discontinue it. I told them about GNUGP and they seemed to be a bit interested in it, but when I mentioned that it was Open Sourced, it got me a mixed reaction. *I am free now, to choose my own destiny.*
Post #47,764 by rsteiner 8/1/02 4:41:30 PM Reply	Hullo! Yeah, I didn't follow the IWETHEY crowd to their new home because I didn't like the forum software they moved to initially (don't remember the reason offhand, but it was important to me at the time). I've been relatively active on USENET since, particularly the OS/2 groups, but I've avoided web forums for the most part. This software doesn't seem to be too bad, though. -Rich Steiner (OS/2 and Linux user in Eden Prairie, MN) The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.
Post #47,828 by deSitter 8/2/02 9:31:07 AM Reply	Boo Hoo OS/2 I have new ThinkPad A31, the best machine I've ever had. I was thinking the other day what a pity it didn't come preloaded with a modern version of OS/2 :( instead of Windows MM (NT ME SE XP - pretty soon they'll need TLAs). Welcome home. -drl

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