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Post #46,910 by wharris2 7/25/02 8:27:53 PM Reply	I was always famous for saving Email Wherever I went, I would keep my old Email. I used to have Email (unwisely, as it turns out, stored/forwarded/whatever at work) dating from 1987 until the IT people couldn't or wouldn't restore my home directory when a disk crashed. (I think it's "couldn't", but I suppose it was time I weeded out Email from people I'd not seen for a dozen years.) (But forced non-selective weeding sucks.) Not sure if that sucks more than having to move to Microsoft Exchange. The lawyers would mostly rather be what they are than get out of the way even if the cost was Hammerfall. - Jerry Pournelle
Post #46,978 by Ashton 7/26/02 3:55:38 AM Reply	My dbase also. Odd to hear that you are considered a maverick for doing so. Properly sorted into relevant folders - lots of exchanges are the history of certain events. No retyping, summarizing, silly notes needed: you have the Originals. Obviously those dependent upon others' servers and arbitrary judgments: no longer can rely upon this method. Small prediction then: those with the smarts to see the value in saving at least certain messages in a somewhat organized way - will be saving these on local storage / burning CDs periodically. This will take more handling time and slow access considerably. (Of course too, lock-in to a particular mail-format is the same concern here as - trusting anything permanent to any M$ format.) As to Hotmail and M$' fruitless attempts to get people to move to the paid 'service' (0.3% so far..) -- well, what did anyone expect of M$: customer concern as a prority ?! I can't imagine the naivete of the ones whining about having left un-Backed-up material THERE forever. Oh well - it's just words. Ashton
Post #46,980 by wharris2 7/26/02 4:04:57 AM Reply	More complications Nowdays, there comes "document retention" policies into play. Retain (even CYA stuff) beyond two or three years and you may be called on the carpet. If life were fair, Bill and Microsoft would still be regretting not having a three-year (or whatever) shredding (even of backup tapes) policy. Life isn't fair and the DOJ is choosing to ignore "knife the baby" Email, oh well. The lawyers would mostly rather be what they are than get out of the way even if the cost was Hammerfall. - Jerry Pournelle

Don't use hotmail - (imric) - (37) - July 25, 2002, 07:21:40 PM EDT

How many admins out there? - (Brandioch) - (12) - July 25, 2002, 07:50:42 PM EDT

I was always famous for saving Email - (wharris2) - (2) - July 25, 2002, 08:27:53 PM EDT

My dbase also. - (Ashton) - (1) - July 26, 2002, 03:55:38 AM EDT

More complications - (wharris2) - July 26, 2002, 04:04:57 AM EDT

admins out here - (andread) - (8) - July 25, 2002, 11:24:24 PM EDT

You serious? - (wharris2) - (7) - July 26, 2002, 02:30:00 AM EDT

not the end of the world - (andread) - (6) - July 26, 2002, 09:15:55 AM EDT

True. - (imric) - (5) - July 26, 2002, 09:49:59 AM EDT

It wasn't totally 'sprung' - (drewk) - (4) - July 26, 2002, 09:54:15 AM EDT

Yup. - (imric) - July 26, 2002, 09:59:07 AM EDT

Nobody has yet admitted to seeing that message. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - July 26, 2002, 12:49:38 PM EDT

I use hotmail and I don't read them anymore. - (Brandioch) - July 26, 2002, 01:19:56 PM EDT

Re: Nobody has yet admitted to seeing that message. - (andread) - July 26, 2002, 06:30:39 PM EDT

News flash! - (inthane-chan) - July 25, 2002, 08:20:05 PM EDT

Survival of the fittest - (Andrew Grygus) - July 25, 2002, 11:19:47 PM EDT

I'd like not to - (orion) - (18) - July 26, 2002, 12:21:25 AM EDT

Stop using it... - (kmself) - (17) - July 26, 2002, 06:14:20 AM EDT

I let mine die. - (pwhysall) - July 26, 2002, 08:23:56 AM EDT

Wish I could - (orion) - (15) - July 26, 2002, 04:57:47 PM EDT

Wrong question - (kmself) - (9) - July 26, 2002, 10:29:41 PM EDT

What is the right things anyway? - (orion) - (8) - July 26, 2002, 10:58:48 PM EDT

Does it have an auto-responder? - (static) - (1) - July 27, 2002, 03:36:16 AM EDT

Not that I can find - (orion) - July 27, 2002, 10:59:55 AM EDT

Wrong question - (kmself) - (5) - July 27, 2002, 05:26:24 PM EDT

Everything I do is wrong - (orion) - (4) - July 27, 2002, 05:38:14 PM EDT

That would be a wrong decision. - (Andrew Grygus) - July 27, 2002, 06:14:25 PM EDT

Everything you DO is right, my friend! -NT - (imric) - July 27, 2002, 07:07:48 PM EDT

Failure is a great learning tool - (kmself) - (1) - July 28, 2002, 12:05:49 AM EDT

As long as you learn from it - (ben_tilly) - July 27, 2002, 07:52:52 PM EDT

Do what I did - (ben_tilly) - (4) - July 27, 2002, 10:20:18 AM EDT

They're probably hitting 'reply' on old mail . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - July 27, 2002, 10:28:06 AM EDT

I've done that - (orion) - (1) - July 27, 2002, 11:01:38 AM EDT

No, you don't. - (static) - July 28, 2002, 09:23:18 AM EDT

That is what I did the second time around - (ben_tilly) - July 27, 2002, 01:09:21 PM EDT

We need another reason? -NT - (static) - July 26, 2002, 06:56:26 AM EDT

I just use it to pick up teenaged girls online :-P - (tuberculosis) - (1) - July 26, 2002, 09:07:45 AM EDT

A joke? I'll say... - (imric) - July 26, 2002, 09:53:02 AM EDT

You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin' command here.
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