Well you have to blame the environmentalists for this

Post #38,767 by boxley 5/15/02 9:30:24 AM Reply	Well you have to blame the environmentalists for this Back in the day when federally protected species came into law, All raptors, carrion birds and seagulls were put on protective notice. The place is lucky all of their assets were not seized, the law provides for such. Putting a Seagull feather upon a peice of art renders that art property of the federal government. All Alaska natives are very careful which type of feathers they use in decorating their crafts. More than once an entire year's work of crafts/sole income has been seized for a raven feather. Be careful what you wish for, for it has unintended consequences. Now for your friends, they must get a federal permit by proving they have the skills, ability and place to care for injured federal critters. I suggest calling the eagle sanctuary in Homer Alaska for hints on how to get one. If they had the permit, the local goons cannot do squat. thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #38,998 by jb4 5/17/02 9:30:39 AM Reply	Horseshit! Get of the soapbox, Box. You know damn well that "environmentalists" had nothing to do with writing a zero-tolerance "law" that even you could see would be ripe for this sort of abuse. Nice try. Now you can get back to your regularly-scheduled demagoguery. jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #39,008 by boxley 5/17/02 9:58:09 AM Reply	So the oil/logging companies are responsible for these laws? They wrote these draconian measures? If that is the case the repos DO want to give us clean air and water. :) thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #39,063 by Ashton 5/17/02 3:37:08 PM Reply	Demagoguery means.. to creat a simplistic worldview in which 'We' gots Wisdom while, 'They' [the class of all who imagine We Don't gots Wisdom] are all lumped together under one newly-hateful Buzz-word like, Environmentalist. Good job Bill: [Class] {Environmentalist} --> dev/idiot/null (anyone can invent a new symbology and then make it a religion) IMhO, the above events are reducible (as easily as your reductionism of all things 'Environmental') to: "this bird - whatever the quality of its daily life for FIVE years since it was injured and left to die by the side of the road - is better off dead, Immediately because 'It's [my personal interpretation that it is] The Law\ufffd'" And in fact, that ISN'T the law - F&G officers have discretion - it was this individual's premeditated 'decision' -- "to make an example" = close eyes and ears to any investigation of the actual circumstances and the "quality of life" of this animal he was allegedy "protecting from abuse!". Death == Protection is NOT contained in That Law. This event/case is far from over / ready for the truss-ad section - and not merely "locally", from what I have heard directly from some involved parties. Ashton 'Environmentalists' My Ass
Post #39,190 by boxley 5/19/02 2:42:30 AM Reply	nope, no license for protected raptors, no bird. Discretion, not much except to ship to licenced facility. Have the folks get the license, there isnt enough qualed or caring folks for the bird community. thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS

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