lets see, she was crazy enough to kill herself?

Post #38,067 by boxley 5/9/02 10:40:33 AM Reply	lets see, she was crazy enough to kill herself? and she is in charge of an elementary school? Whats wrong with that picture? thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #38,068 by mmoffitt 5/9/02 10:42:02 AM 5/9/02 10:46:08 AM Reply	Comment removed by author. Edited by mmoffitt May 9, 2002, 10:46:08 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #38,071 by boxley 5/9/02 10:54:34 AM Reply	That was a fair comment I was harsh in my post but if someone has a mental problem they should find a line of work that doesnt involve children. She brought a gun into a school, just thank (insert Diety of choice or Peter here) she didnt turn it on the kids. thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #38,072 by mmoffitt 5/9/02 11:01:00 AM Reply	Not fair, childish. As was your post. I cannot, nor can you, pretend to know what was going on in her mind when she did this. I knew my younger brother better than anyone and I will never know the pain that he must have felt when he did the same thing. You say we should be grateful that she didn't turn the gun on the children. I don't think that was ever a possibility. I'd guess that it was the spectre of not being able to continue her work with children that weighed most on her mind.
Post #38,074 by boxley 5/9/02 11:18:17 AM Reply	Like you said we DONT know what was on her mind Something terrible was. Terrible enough to cause her to end her life. My point was to provoke a reaction. Thats quite often why I post. I assumed thats why you posted the article. The point remains valid that she should have sought treatment, not be in charge of an elementary school. thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #38,084 by mmoffitt 5/9/02 12:41:33 PM Reply	Begs a question. Agreed that she should have sought treatment and that at the time of crisis she was unfit to be in charge of an elementary school. HOWEVER, given that there is supporting evidence that this idiotic "teach the kids to be good at multiple guess exams and nothing else" policy of Dubya's currently masquerading as an education policy is extremely stressful to other teachers/administrators/etc., isn't it likely that this burden lead to her diminished state?
Post #38,088 by boxley 5/9/02 1:31:37 PM Reply	Is there evidence that the stress is because of the tests or is the stress related to the competency of the teachers? If not tests how do you measure success? What hard key indicators can you provide for nationwide indications of teacher competency? What do the Brits use now? Or the Euro's? 90% of this years graduating highschoolers dont have even a basic grasp of American History. Is it because they are stupid or the educators are not educating? This is not a generic teacher slam as I have met great teachers and piss poor ones and all three of my schoolagers go to public schools. thanx, Bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #38,098 by mmoffitt 5/9/02 2:53:19 PM Reply	Lack of history education is by design. Otherwise we'd have rioting in the streets over the Supreme Court's hijacking of the Presidential election.
Post #38,104 by boxley 5/9/02 3:06:15 PM Reply	yep, the people here in florida were pretty po'ed at the FSC If folks knew history the Florida critters would have selected the electors, there would have been a fight in DC to throw them out. It would have lost by party line. The constitution would kick in and the congress would have forwarded Bush to the Senate who depending on Jeffords would have been declared the winner. Else Denny Hastert would be the president. ONE MORE TIME WITH FEELING FOR THE WEST WING CROWD there is no scenario under law that would have got gore in the door thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #38,116 by Brandioch 5/9/02 4:18:06 PM Reply	Ah, but doing it legally and by the book...... There is something to be said for following the procedures outlined. If nothing else, it maintains faith in the system.
Post #38,132 by mmoffitt 5/9/02 5:48:17 PM Reply	Um, how about the scenario of... *accurately* measuring the intent of the voter? Or just plain counting all the votes and excluding the double-dipped ones? Concur w/Brandi's assessment as well.
Post #38,220 by boxley 5/10/02 11:42:34 AM Reply	wouldnt make a difference If there had been any likely hood of a tip to gore, the legislature was poised to send their own electors, ending up in the house and a repo president. No scenario would produce a gore presidency. TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS

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