Wrong argument

Post #304,156 by drook 2/14/09 10:01:01 AM Reply	Wrong argument Try this one: You don't get to ignore your own rules just because "this time it's an emergency." That's how we got the PATRIOT Act. That's why I disagree with the position that this bill was an exception. Now as far as posting the stimulus bill ... Was there infrastructure in place that would make it possible to do that before Obama took office? Are there House procedures in place to make it available with that much lead time? Is Obama allowed to dictate the policies and procedures of the House? The ship of state is not a rowboat. It doesn't change course on a dime. I'm willing to give this administration a little time before coming to conclusions. What I can say is that so far they seem to be steering in a better direction. Ask yourself this question: Have liberals attacked Republicans by saying, "They're no better than the Democrats"? That seems to be a distinctly conservative attack. And it strikes me that "he's as bad as I am" isn't really a rousing defense of your own position. -- Drew
Post #304,157 by beepster 2/14/09 10:20:08 AM Reply	Don't get me wrong all of those elements are there... this is politics as usual, however, nothing different. I'm sure that about 50%-75% are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt... We have added a few T to the national debt this week, however...and while it may have been an "emergency", a few less B's in there could have been managed with the process that He promised. To my eye, doesn't look like the rudder has moved an inch...steady as she goes I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #304,158 by boxley 2/14/09 10:32:06 AM Reply	my main objection is that this is not a stimulus bill the dems have wanted to spend on programs listed in this bill for a long time. No objection per se, they won and they are trying to pass what they always wanted thats how it works in America A bill laden with democratic bridges to the airport is not a stimulus bill or an emergency, that is why I am complaining about the method. thanx, bill
Post #304,165 by drook 2/14/09 1:00:43 PM Reply	Then what should they spend on? Stimulus bill means get some kind of economic activity going. The Democrats have a whole list of things we should have been spending on anyway. Should they not do anything they've been calling for, just because they thought of it before the previous administration wrecked the economy? -- Drew
Post #304,171 by boxley 2/14/09 4:10:36 PM Reply	nuke plants, building thereof, Not DV grants and endangered species relief $75 million for "smoking cessation activities and the like.
Post #304,180 by Ashton 2/15/09 1:19:20 AM Reply	Complex; highly debatable -- many years to any production, by which time many other approaches Not-needing hugely expensive decommissioning may well render that approach antediluvian (like so much in the minds of the sci-illiterate Class, especially MBA-suits: the major contributors to Congressperson-purchases.) (And no need to cite France as 'blazing the way'; their decommissioning expense -- if they can afford it THEN -- shall be as useful a litmus as anywhere.) We have yet to touch most of the egregious isotopes everywhere around Hanford, Oak Ridge and numerous smaller sites, none of which ever get to MSM. Most readers (and 'reporters' + Editors) can't pronounce radionuclides, let alone discuss their relevance.

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