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by a6l6e6x
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7/23/07 11:05:43 AM
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New The answer is no.
[link|http://www.webmd.com/content/article/109/109218.htm|Web MD]:
The herbal remedy echinacea may not live up to its reputation for fighting colds.

Echinacea was tested against the common cold virus in healthy college students. Apparently, the herbal remedy flunked. It didn't seem to prevent or treat colds.

The report appears in The New England Journal of Medicine. The researchers included Ronald Turner, MD, of the University of Virginia's medical school.
Alex
Nobody has a more sacred obligation to obey the law than those who make the law. -- Sophocles (496? - 406 BCE)
Post #289,672
by Andrew Grygus
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7/23/07 11:20:22 AM
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New Echinacea found effective after all . . .
[link|http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-echinacea25jun25,1,4172844,print.story?ctrack=2&cset=true|Los Angeles Times]
The herbal remedy echinacea can prevent colds and speed recovery from runny noses, coughs and other symptoms, according to a study published Sunday [in the journal Lancet Infectious Diseases]that could renew interest in the discredited product.

The analysis of 1,600 patients pooled from 14 previously published studies found that echinacea reduced the chances of catching a cold by 58% and shaved 1.4 days off the duration of a cold, researchers said.
Of course those who claimed no effect are claiming "bad science" and these guys are "right back at ya". I'm sure that as in 99.83% of medical and nutritional disputes both sides are right on at least that one point.

[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
     get headaches? - (boxley) - (33) - July 21, 2007, 07:12:07 PM EDT
         Here's one - - (Ashton) - (5) - July 21, 2007, 08:08:52 PM EDT
             well shoving the blood flow to new areas usually works - (boxley) - (2) - July 21, 2007, 08:07:00 PM EDT
                 ^RTFM^ -NT - (Ashton) - (1) - July 21, 2007, 08:10:14 PM EDT
                     duh oh! -NT - (boxley) - July 21, 2007, 08:16:52 PM EDT
             Another one: - (admin) - July 21, 2007, 08:12:13 PM EDT
             Wife's comment: - (admin) - July 27, 2007, 09:19:41 PM EDT
         Their commercials give me a headache! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - July 21, 2007, 11:59:33 PM EDT
         So it's water, right? -NT - (pwhysall) - (25) - July 22, 2007, 07:25:24 AM EDT
             ? no. 99.9%wax n other stuff -NT - (boxley) - (24) - July 22, 2007, 09:58:32 AM EDT
                 99.9999% wax (and other meaningless stuff) - (crazy) - (23) - July 22, 2007, 11:33:11 AM EDT
                     works in the case of someone alergic to most - (boxley) - (22) - July 22, 2007, 12:17:12 PM EDT
                         Actually, no - (crazy) - (21) - July 22, 2007, 01:25:43 PM EDT
                             Im glad the PC editors on wikipedia have nailed Homeopathy - (boxley) - (3) - July 22, 2007, 01:35:58 PM EDT
                                 sigh (for both anti-WP responses) - (crazy) - (1) - July 22, 2007, 02:28:28 PM EDT
                                     As a jumping off point for non-controversial subjects . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - July 22, 2007, 02:42:57 PM EDT
                                 Ah, otheopaths vs allopaths - (crazy) - July 22, 2007, 03:00:26 PM EDT
                             Citing Wikipedia on anything the least bit controversial . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (16) - July 22, 2007, 01:59:23 PM EDT
                                 Impossible to know? - (crazy) - (15) - July 22, 2007, 02:45:13 PM EDT
                                     Ah! an unbiased source :) - (Andrew Grygus) - (14) - July 22, 2007, 03:14:50 PM EDT
                                         I don't ask you to accept the source - (crazy) - (4) - July 22, 2007, 03:32:58 PM EDT
                                             oes this work in acceptable form? - (boxley) - (2) - July 22, 2007, 03:53:36 PM EDT
                                                 The answer is no. - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - July 23, 2007, 11:05:43 AM EDT
                                                     Echinacea found effective after all . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - July 23, 2007, 11:20:22 AM EDT
                                             "Where is that quote from?" you ask . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - July 22, 2007, 04:43:12 PM EDT
                                         No homeopathic remedy has ever passed a double-blind test. - (pwhysall) - (8) - July 22, 2007, 05:05:46 PM EDT
                                             Not difficult to find articles that differ with you on that. - (Andrew Grygus) - July 22, 2007, 05:20:37 PM EDT
                                             http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=28 -NT - (boxley) - July 22, 2007, 05:42:43 PM EDT
                                             although when it comes to picking doctors - (boxley) - July 22, 2007, 05:45:12 PM EDT
                                             Re: No homeopathic remedy has ever passed a double-blind tes - (Ashton) - (4) - July 22, 2007, 06:56:01 PM EDT
                                                 oooh, medicine chest comparisons - (boxley) - (3) - July 22, 2007, 07:29:16 PM EDT
                                                     Minimal - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - July 22, 2007, 07:37:34 PM EDT
                                                         W.T.F. ? - (Ashton) - (1) - July 22, 2007, 09:38:24 PM EDT
                                                             Re: W.T.F. ? - (Andrew Grygus) - July 22, 2007, 10:07:19 PM EDT

Life was hard for the pioneers, but every now and again, someone would get out the fiddle and make it all worse.
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