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Post #23,615
by Ashton
1/9/02 6:50:19 AM
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New I could be wrong about *good* ABS, of course.
..and especially on ice or odd terrain. Wasn't impressed with a couple local samples - Saturn, for the worst example.

Also forgot about the 850. Nice but outta my league. As far as I'm concerned, Saab died when Scania lost control of engineering. It's now just another Yuppie toy - sellin the image/sizzle, not the bacon.

Oh well..


Ashton
noticing the rave reviews of the new Hyundai (!!) Elantra HB - apparently caught-up to Japanese construction quality, exc. brakes and lots of well executed details. Even the curmudgeons had only a couple minor nits (front-end styling! Sheesh.)
Post #23,621
by boxley
1/9/02 9:05:32 AM
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New newer used car buying advice
If your looking for a newer older car, look in the phone book under car rentals for ads like ugly duckling, take a turkey etc that rent 2 or 3 yr old cars cheap. That will allow you to try the feel of different rigs for a few days to see if it matches. It also allows you to see and feel what the new cars would be like in a few years. A 3 yrold hyundai will let you know what the new one will act and rattle like fairly quickly.
thanx,
bill
My Dreams aren't as empty as my conscience seems to be
Post #23,669
by Ashton
1/9/02 5:13:13 PM
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New Good advice.
Thanks. It may be less telling re Hyundai and 2001-02 models. Being fully aware of the rep of the first ones - they appear to have taken a giant leap in addressing this albatross rep.

Hydraulic motor mounts = hardly an el-cheapo solution to that source of unwanted drummings. Anyway... as I note local taxes and some of the BS like "lettin the customer pay for Advertising !!" (which my car-buyin pro Never will stand for, in the end) - I may end up seeing if the Saab will go on for 30 years, not just 25. Fun..



Ashton
techno is a Drug
     The new whine is out - (boxley) - (59) - Jan. 7, 2002, 02:23:18 PM EST
         It's a SAAB! ___It's a GM___ It's a - (Ashton) - (58) - Jan. 7, 2002, 04:08:36 PM EST
             "Viggen", meaning "Thunderbolt" (from Mjolnir). HTH! -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Jan. 7, 2002, 04:35:24 PM EST
                 Thanx; too lazy to look for early Saab brochure.. :( -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 7, 2002, 05:21:59 PM EST
             It's a Volvo! ___It's a Ford___ It's a - (a6l6e6x) - (55) - Jan. 7, 2002, 04:59:07 PM EST
                 {sigh} Murican taste(lessness) has made whores of - (Ashton) - Jan. 7, 2002, 05:44:18 PM EST
                 NOOOOOOOOO!!! - (inthane-chan) - (53) - Jan. 7, 2002, 08:51:31 PM EST
                     My sentiments, exactly. - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 7, 2002, 09:14:55 PM EST
                     Mitsuoka. - (Meerkat) - (1) - Jan. 7, 2002, 09:39:51 PM EST
                         Bah humbug - they're deeply "influenced" by Clenet! - (CRConrad) - Jan. 8, 2002, 05:34:32 AM EST
                     Oh, shaddapayafaces! Ferchrissake, *relax*, guys... - (CRConrad) - (49) - Jan. 8, 2002, 05:48:27 AM EST
                         Re: Never heard of the S60? - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - Jan. 8, 2002, 10:13:57 AM EST
                             But then, *why should* anything have "followed" the V70?!? - (CRConrad) - (2) - Jan. 8, 2002, 10:40:17 AM EST
                                 Re: But then, *why should* anything have "followed" the V70? - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2002, 11:51:51 AM EST
                                     Nope, it ain't gonna vanish - not anytime soon, anyway. - (CRConrad) - Jan. 8, 2002, 12:24:50 PM EST
                         If ya want to do an SUV do it right - (boxley) - (2) - Jan. 8, 2002, 10:15:48 AM EST
                             No way... - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2002, 10:49:51 AM EST
                                 6 weber carbs? fsck that, spend all yer time tuning -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 8, 2002, 10:54:20 AM EST
                         So what do you drive in the snow over there? -NT - (admin) - (41) - Jan. 8, 2002, 10:54:39 AM EST
                             30-year-old rear-wheel-drive Volvo 142s etc; what else? -NT - (CRConrad) - (40) - Jan. 8, 2002, 11:29:25 AM EST
                                 Ah... right... -NT - (admin) - (36) - Jan. 8, 2002, 11:33:24 AM EST
                                     Really, seriously, we do; I remember a statistic... - (CRConrad) - (35) - Jan. 8, 2002, 11:44:40 AM EST
                                         But how well does a rear-wheel car do in the snow? -NT - (admin) - (19) - Jan. 8, 2002, 11:47:45 AM EST
                                             with posi rearend much better than front wheel drive - (boxley) - (12) - Jan. 8, 2002, 11:53:50 AM EST
                                                 That seems counter-intuitive. - (admin) - (11) - Jan. 8, 2002, 11:55:32 AM EST
                                                     4 wheel drive is geared towards additional traction in deep - (boxley) - (8) - Jan. 8, 2002, 12:03:20 PM EST
                                                         OK, that makes sense. - (admin) - (7) - Jan. 8, 2002, 01:12:32 PM EST
                                                             no studs and >1ft snow low subd speeds? All wheel drive -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 8, 2002, 01:30:04 PM EST
                                                             Tires and Torque. - (Another Scott) - (5) - Jan. 8, 2002, 02:11:37 PM EST
                                                                 Not necessarily. - (admin) - (4) - Jan. 8, 2002, 02:23:16 PM EST
                                                                     dumb question, sandbags in the trunk? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2002, 02:27:58 PM EST
                                                                         Hatchback. - (admin) - Jan. 8, 2002, 02:49:02 PM EST
                                                                     No it ain't... - (CRConrad) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2002, 05:18:41 PM EST
                                                                         Pedantic indeed. - (admin) - Jan. 8, 2002, 05:21:14 PM EST
                                                     I don't know about 4wd... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2002, 01:12:18 PM EST
                                                         Doesn't jibe with my experience. - (admin) - Jan. 8, 2002, 01:15:19 PM EST
                                             If you're used to it (and careful), it's manageable. - (CRConrad) - (5) - Jan. 8, 2002, 12:42:29 PM EST
                                                 Not the handbrake, remove the ABS fuse - (boxley) - (4) - Jan. 8, 2002, 12:47:16 PM EST
                                                     "[Y]ou turn the wheel, nothing happens"; y'know what that... - (CRConrad) - (3) - Jan. 8, 2002, 01:05:45 PM EST
                                                         Agreement there - (admin) - Jan. 8, 2002, 01:18:01 PM EST
                                                         get into a parking lot try it and report back - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2002, 01:28:39 PM EST
                                                             Ah, I see: Good only down to "Slush" on the thermometer! :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - Jan. 8, 2002, 05:06:40 PM EST
                                         Re: replace his '98 Volvo with? - (a6l6e6x) - (9) - Jan. 8, 2002, 12:32:24 PM EST
                                             Woo, air-con! - But, I can't afford such a *luxury* car! ;-) -NT - (CRConrad) - (8) - Jan. 8, 2002, 12:45:29 PM EST
                                                 Air-con not quite a luxury here in .au - (Meerkat) - (7) - Jan. 8, 2002, 05:59:48 PM EST
                                                     You hardly ever want to accelerate and brake simultaneously. -NT - (CRConrad) - (5) - Jan. 8, 2002, 06:12:35 PM EST
                                                         True! - (Meerkat) - (4) - Jan. 8, 2002, 06:28:41 PM EST
                                                             Whatcha driving now, a Jose'? :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - (3) - Jan. 8, 2002, 06:41:02 PM EST
                                                                 Don't spose anyone else calls 'em "spanish cars" - (Meerkat) - (2) - Jan. 8, 2002, 07:00:20 PM EST
                                                                     Naah, British usage too. - (CRConrad) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2002, 07:22:24 PM EST
                                                                         Manuel on purpose. I'm just bored at work :) - (Meerkat) - Jan. 8, 2002, 07:38:23 PM EST
                                                     driving on ice, cars fer let - (boxley) - Jan. 9, 2002, 08:57:22 AM EST
                                         Volvo:Saab ratio in Finland? - (Ashton) - (4) - Jan. 8, 2002, 09:31:31 PM EST
                                             Dunno exactly; a bit more Volvos than SAABs, I think. - (CRConrad) - (3) - Jan. 9, 2002, 04:42:51 AM EST
                                                 I could be wrong about *good* ABS, of course. - (Ashton) - (2) - Jan. 9, 2002, 06:50:19 AM EST
                                                     newer used car buying advice - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 9, 2002, 09:05:32 AM EST
                                                         Good advice. - (Ashton) - Jan. 9, 2002, 05:13:13 PM EST
                                 Qualifies to be an antique! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Jan. 8, 2002, 11:59:13 AM EST
                                     Sadly, not Over Here; that's pre-1920 or sumthin', IIRC! :-) - (CRConrad) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2002, 12:34:13 PM EST
                                         here classic is >20 years antique I dunno -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 8, 2002, 12:50:48 PM EST

I used to use rot-13, but I decided I needed something at least twice as strong. So now I use rot-26 to encode all of my transmissions.
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