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New Lynne Cheney-Joe Lieberman group puts out a blacklist
Good response to more of the new world order implementation:

[link|http://www0.mercurycenter.com/premium/opinion/columns/009661.htm|http://www0.mercury...s/009661.htm]

Although the council's stated objectives include the protection of academic freedom, the report resembles a blacklist. In a chilling use of doublespeak, it affirms the right of professors to speak out, yet condemns those who have attempted to give context to Sept. 11, encourage critical thinking, or share knowledge about other cultures. Faculty are accused of being ``short on patriotism'' for attempting to give students the analytical tools they need to become informed citizens.

Many of those blacklisted are top scholars in their fields, and it appears that the report represents a kind of academic terrorism designed to strike fear into other academics by making examples of respected professors.

The report might also function to extend control over sites of democratic debate -- our universities -- where freedom of expression is not only permitted but encouraged.
[...]

Our universities are not failing America. On the contrary, they are among the few institutions offering alternatives to canned mainstream media reports.

New Deja vu: Retrospective on 1950 UC Loyalty Oath affair
Bad enough that the confusion of fascism with 'patriotism' remains a continuing - not a new Murican conundrum. Next predictable step in this transparent progression of our prayerful AG is: the Millennium Loyalty Oath. Think about what a coerced loyalty oath actually means, as we head towards a replay.

Last time.. a UC history professor, Ernst Kantorowicz did, and wrote but did not then publish a tract, The Fundamental Issue. In this he (correctly IMhO) characterized the University's version as, an attack upon tenure. Tenure being precisely that insularity from the winds of politics: without which, you can become dog meat for any number of those 'academic' reasons.. Some attention to the issues of 1950 and how some folk responded - is perfectly and sadly appropriate this 12/17/01:

[link|http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/uchistory/archives_exhibits/loyaltyoath/docs_images.html|UC retrospective on loyalty oaths.]

[link|http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/uchistory/archives_exhibits/loyaltyoath/kantorowicz.html|The Fundamental Issue: Documents and Marginal Notes]

There are statements of others who would not sign, at least one who felt compelled to sign and also excoriate. Even now, pre-new oath - these remarks are as relevant to other Ashcroft trends as they were to the hysteria of 1950.

Given the political nature esp. of Calif. Regents - often the financiers from previous governors' campaigns - and their now 10 year tenure (reduced from 16 recently IIRC): we may see a replay in this State next, of the contents of The Fundamental Issue (?)

Authoritarians everywhere yearn for.. some antidote to the practitioners of 'true' democratic debate; we may only fill in our personal opinions of the state of the Murican Corp media top --> bottom, to see what pseudo-debate looks like / also recall all "Presidential stage-managed 'debates'" each of us can recall.

I think it helps to note also the fact that, during the Cold War, many 'tests' were made ~~ setting up a card table in some shopping center; asking people to sign a petition. Petition consisted of excerpts from the Constitution, mostly Bill of Rights IIRC. I've long since forgotten the horrifying numbers/% of folk who deemed these sentiments "communist-sounding". But I'll never forget the fact of those 'tests'.

For me, the measure of our decline is simple: the number of days elapsing since Ashcroft tipped his hand re his intentions -- and until there becomes apparent vocal, sustained and serious opposition to this Administration's vision of a scared-shitless Murica, ready to grant them Imperial power over us all. COINTELPRO is baack. What's to be next?

I saw the tail-end of the last Mc Carthyism and know how it started (and the rationale). Most all here are too young to have the foggiest idea what it felt like, that.. Murica: so FEW years after 'defeat' of Nazism. Ha! it just went underground, like herpes simplex - always it is Around waiting for a weak immune system, to break out..

Folks: THIS HAPPENED RIGHT HERE IN 1950 <<<
(I had to sign a Bowdlerized form of it, to work for the then 'UC Radiation Lab', several years later - and helped in the work to cancel and have that document returned to me - and all the others'. Nobody ever apologized then or .. next?)

Anyone who gives a shit had best give it pretty soon. The momentum is building daily, for rolling-over and playing dead, again.


Ashton
deja vu

PS - just now on news from Sacramento:

A publisher (missed, of what) giving a commencement address at Sac State, raised the issues of recent curtailment of civil liberties, wiretapping, etc. Was shouted down by audience.. finally left podium - crowd would not respond to the President's request for civility.

One business major later said to reporter, ~"for just one day we wanted a light-hearted .. ceremony". A couple other students voiced contempt for the crowd's behavior. The talking heads on Ch 10 sounded much like the Tom Tomorrow cartoon pair. That word er controversial mentioned somberly. Natch.

{sigh} It's begun.
New Publisher of the SacBee
and when the draft returns with no outs for college students, kids start coming home in body bags, then call me cynical but their anti war spirits will be activated.
thanx,
bill
My Dreams arn't as empty as my concience seems to ne
New It is unfortunate, isn't it...
...that there isn't enough foresight (and enough people who remember anything) that it will need to get to that point before enough people buy a clue to actually do something...
jb4
(Resistance is not futile...)
New My thoughts
People who are trying to turn the US into a little tinpot dictatorship have no business talking about "Unamerican activities".

Of course they do do that. They just have no business doing it.

Cheers,
Ben
New Can another HUAC be far behind?
I should've gone to Ireland when I had the chance.
bcnu,
Mikem

-I'd have a sig, but we Americans "have to watch what they [we] say now".
New HUAC never disbanded, just low profiled
My Dreams arn't as empty as my concience seems to be
New HUAC?
House Un-American Activites Committee?

Shit, I'm moving to Canada ASAP.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
New Yes, House Un-american Activities Committee
AKA the personal vendetta chamber of one Joseph McCarthy, Representative from Wisconsin.

(Do you think Ashhole is trolling for Joe M.'s latter-day replacement?)
jb4
(Resistance is not futile...)
New Interesting history note
You notice all the tshirts with the flag on them? When Abbie Hoffman was hauled in front of the HUAC committee he was wearing a shirt with the flag on it and got cited for contempt of congress as well as flag desecration.
thanx,
bill
My Dreams arn't as empty as my concience seems to be
New I remember that.
And I remember all the right-wingers from Orange County (CA) ranting and raving about the hippies using the flag whenever they could - on their heads, as patches over jeans that were more patch than denims, t-shirts, etc.

Thanks for reminding me.

bcnu,
Mikem

New Since when have universities valued freedom of expression?
Just asking.
[link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html]
Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
New Well.. 'actual debate' is still favored, I am told.
And (very) occasionally a speaker like say, Gore Vidal shows up at one of these - and properly skewers the pompous along with their coterie of grad students, etc.

Or a George Carlin or - I saw Kurt Vonnegut twice! at nearby Sonoma State. Thus there is .. a certain amount of cross-pollination, despite the Campus Orthodoxies and their tenured adherents. The Web also - appears to be YAN sometimes beneficent opener of windows for fresh air.

So.. warts and all - 'academia' remains our last bastion of hope for - enough reverence for (and defense of!) Language. This amidst a sea of bizness/Econ speakers of nonsense + an entire Corporation devoted to the utter dismantling of Language itself: and I think you know which one I am speaking of. Politics of course - never was about - communication; only about disinformation. (Perhaps why The Campus is a fav target of the bombast-laden Pols and of the 3-5% who actually direct the Pols in their daily scavenging for reelection funding: their actual vocation.)

We'd best Love it and not Leave it to.. er 'Free Enterprise' buy-outs and HMO-like atrocity. Y'know? Imagine Billy teachin English from Encarta (this week's rev. with new definitions as suit The Corporate Vision).


Ashton
New Re:'academia' remains our last bastion of hope
Then we've no hope at all. Think that's hyperbole? Go teach a class, then tell me what you think.

I saw Lynne Cheney on a replay of a speech she was giving at a university. She was ranting about how little college students knew of US history. I nearly passed out - way to much static for my neural net. It's a good thing for her US students don't know anything about history! She wouldn't be the V.P.'s wife if they did. No, that's too strong. They'd have to know US history AND care, which is something the lot of them are incapable of.
bcnu,
Mikem

-I'd have a sig, but we Americans have to "watch what we say, watch what we do now."
New As I said: warts and all.
If the students are presenting selves with inflated grades, miniscule attention spans and a predisposition to: 'major' in Bizness, get-in; steal as much as possible - and retire at 27?

Then what exactly could any educator do to make up for such appalling parent-prep and such egregious raw material?

The idea of a liberal education (when that word meant what centuries of dictionaries said it 'meant') likely survives in certain clusters about the world. But Muricans always did think (mostly) of the U. being a pre-paid ticket to getting into the 5% who rule.. via a familiarity with the buzz words of commerce. Physics and er Humanities (!) were frills that seemed a necessary dilution of this prime purpose - so these and the other sciences were left in:

Someone had to invent the new toys for the consumers to buy from the Corps. And the techno-weapons to assure that We Rule. Or.. these would have been axed, like that other non-essential: music. Watch for more 'frills' to be axed in the primary grades - as we morph towards an Efficient Bizness EMO Model. This especially... as the 'recession' looks more and more like that other d-word (whose state inhabits the psyche of so many Muricans, especially those in cubicles - or just being downsized from one).

Nope, IMhO academia is in reasonable shape and with the familiar warts as accompany any Ego-guided endeavor, given the conditions. It's the raw material which has arrived with a level of dumbth and ennui not seen in previous generations. Many of these students suffer from newly minted diseases - for which daily, new Pharm-Chem products are spawned to 'treat' them (and their parents). Among these are: social fear at parties. Yes, I saw That one on the Tee Vee - choreography by Stephen King. Wish I'd recorded it for posterity.

We've built ourselves a real Monster - in subordinating every aspect of life to inane ideas of Bizness efficiency via Language-mangling for 'profit' (in all activities - even prisons! and next, schools). Educators are caught in the middle.. and never were intended to be rewarded for 'excellence': just for setting the stage for Johnny to get rich - screw Manuel and Lavonna all along the way, from Kindergarten on.

It all may devolve to a simplest possible explanation: GIGO.


Ashton
New There must be Balm, if not in Gilead, then...
somewhere, surely? I don't pretend to have "mainstream" ideas. I understand better than most your point about the stupidents of today. Tell me, if you will, what I am to do. I have two daughters aged 9 and 11. If they are to "succeed" in this country, surely they must adopt, (if only to feign support of), the mores (such as they are) of their society. Should I "teach" them to be "good Americans" (you know, the brand of Good American that Resident Bush wanted us to be when he encouraged us to "be good Americans. Go on with your lives. Go shopping") or should I try to expose them to other philosophies? If I chose the latter, am I not condemning them to an intellectual life replete with misery?

You see, it is not only the educators who are in a hopeless conundrum. Some of us parents are right there with them.
Mikem
New Tell them the truth as you see it and always explain both
sides of the issues equally. With mine I say some people want to be safe, our country was meant to be free, you cant have both at the same time.
thanx,
bill
My Dreams aren't as empty as my conscience seems to be
New A sobering responsibility,
trying to supply the necessary tools, inculcating just the principles of ~ 'how to think to some purpose about ___ (anything)'. {sigh}

Offhand though, I can't think of a worse ego-trap than - imagining one can 'teach teachers' (unless you are that rare one who is good at expressing principles via damn good stories - like the Sufis?)

All I can come up with is - looking back.. what do I wish my esteemed educators had mentioned ever so briefly - before I had to find out by the usual processes of disillusionment?

1) Country was founded by pretty-wise folks, with pretty-fine 'Principles' stated in almost wondrous prose. These are Ideals, pretty hard to follow - but very good guides.

2) Many folks who live here, are not well acquainted with what these founding folks meant - but claim that they do understand. Be aware of the differences between what people say they believe, and how you see them 'living'.

3) Adults (also) lie, quite a lot - while advocating that truth-telling is better. It's a human thing, since everyone feels inadequate in some area of life. You can (I hate 'ought' in such matters) try to do better; try not to pick just the easist course.

4) What you can remember to do is: listen carefully. Later, use your best mode of thinking about what you hear. Discard the obvious puffery and nonsense: add what's left to your own store of sensible views. Keep refining those. No one can do this for you - not even I, your Parent God.

Oh and..

5) Question Authority. Yes, it was a cliche a few decades back but - remember that everything you read or hear was said by someone human; none of those utterances IS "The Truth" about anything - it is only a pointer (if it's well done). You have to fill-in the meaning, for yourself.

6) Good Luck, Kid!

Well.. anyway: Good Luck to You. Yours is the most difficult of all human duties, but at least you understand that! Probably that will keep you er honest ;-) Gawd help the kids with parents unclear on most-all the concepts :(


Ashton
New Thanks to you both. Very good thoughts.
     Lynne Cheney-Joe Lieberman group puts out a blacklist - (slugbug) - (18)
         Deja vu: Retrospective on 1950 UC Loyalty Oath affair - (Ashton) - (2)
             Publisher of the SacBee - (boxley) - (1)
                 It is unfortunate, isn't it... - (jb4)
         My thoughts - (ben_tilly)
         Can another HUAC be far behind? - (mmoffitt) - (5)
             HUAC never disbanded, just low profiled -NT - (boxley)
             HUAC? - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                 Yes, House Un-american Activities Committee - (jb4) - (2)
                     Interesting history note - (boxley) - (1)
                         I remember that. - (mmoffitt)
         Since when have universities valued freedom of expression? - (marlowe) - (7)
             Well.. 'actual debate' is still favored, I am told. - (Ashton) - (6)
                 Re:'academia' remains our last bastion of hope - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                     As I said: warts and all. - (Ashton) - (4)
                         There must be Balm, if not in Gilead, then... - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                             Tell them the truth as you see it and always explain both - (boxley)
                             A sobering responsibility, - (Ashton) - (1)
                                 Thanks to you both. Very good thoughts. -NT - (mmoffitt)

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