Post #212,401
6/24/05 9:11:11 AM
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My next door neighbors have a pit bull
She's less than a year old, but big and unpredictable. She often charges the fence when we come outside. Her jaws are massive. Her owners are laid back hippie types who chuckle at her aggressive behavior and attribute it to her being "just a puppy". She's also a digger and digs at the fence line. She's made holes big enough to get under, but she hasnt come in our yard yet. Her owners saying "no no Isabell" is about all the training she gets. This dog scares me. They also have 2 other dogs that bark worse than mine. They get going with their yapping and it triggers Sadie to chime in. (And they also dont pick up the their dog waste. 3 dogs, 97 degree temps today- you can guess what it's going to smell like. I have no prob telling them their yard stinks. It's the only thing that motivates them to pick up)
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Post #212,408
6/24/05 9:39:56 AM
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People.
They don't assume responsibility for children misbehaving.
They don't assume responsibility for their pets.
Many times they neglect them. Many times they don't train them. Training is part of caring for pets and children.
Then they claim that their little angels can't misbehave.
Our society is sick, and these are some of the symptoms.
It's not a new thing; we had a few neighbors with dogs that would pack together at night and attack our sheep. Fang (my dog) would often run them off, but if he wasn't around, my grandfather had a 20gauge with shells loaded with rock salt to drive them off. Often just the sound would drive them away, but... Well, he never killed a dog (outside of putting his own down when necessary); he loved dogs.
We always heard the 'but MY dog would NEVER hurt a fly' whenever he had to resort to this.
Luckily, we lived in a mostly agricultural community (well, it was at that time, anyway), so the authorities would just dismiss complaints from the dog-owners (then why were they on the property hunting sheep? We had witnesses, they had assertions contrary to the nature of canines). It probably wouldn't work today - the way society works today, we'd probably be charged with the claim that keeping sheep was an 'attractive nuisance' for pets.
But I digress - a yard like that is neglect; have you thought about taking pictures and sending them to the SPCA? Take pictures of the holes, too - if the unruly animal gets into your yard and threatens you, you want evidence that the owners didn't take sufficient steps to contain their unruly animal. Tape recordings of the barking might help too.
I dunno.
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Post #212,409
6/24/05 9:44:09 AM
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Precautionary visit from Animal Control/SPCA in order? :-(
Especially having your own dog in the back yard, I think you want to have someone impress upon your neighbors that they need to train their pooch.
At least you might want to call someone in Animal Control or the SPCA to impress upon them your concerns (if you haven't already).
Or, maybe they'll move soon. ;-)
Luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #212,420
6/24/05 11:16:55 AM
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Had a neighbor like that
10-year-old son got a pit bull. Would walk around the neighborhood with the leash in one hand, a library book called "Attack Dog Training" in the other. No, it wasn't a power trip at all.
The dog tore through our wooden fence four times in three weeks, and we found her in our backyard. Fortunately we always noticed her before going out ourselves. Finally she tore through the fence on the other side, and that neighbor didn't have a gate so the dog got loose in the neighborhood.
That's not why we moved, but it made it easier to not miss the old place.
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Post #212,421
6/24/05 11:20:39 AM
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I have a very large dog
cross breed pit and rott. 110 pounds by my latest estimate. He licks strangers that walk in the house. The last time he had any question about someone entering the house I believe was Greg last year when he was 12 months old. At that time he was an unimpressive 80 pounds.
He barks in the back yard and promptly is yelled down. Digging gets his nose pushed into the hole and a nice firm tap on the tip of his nose following. I like my grass (what I have left)
However, my neighbor expressed discomfort at the low fence that was keeping the dog in (the dog has zero leaping ability, all power is in front and its not strong enough to get vertical). I held the dog (who is completely non threatening for most everyone) while it became aquainted with her.
He still will bark when he hears the car, but now promptly shuts up when he hears her tell him to be quiet. He cannot see her anymore, as the fence has now been replaced with 6 foot wooden fencing as opposed to the old 4 foot chain link.
We worry about him with very small children only because of his size.
I will admit, when he barks/growls he is >very< frightening to hear. I have no faith in his ability to protect me, however. Maybe he will lick the assailant to death.
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Post #212,933
6/28/05 9:04:00 PM
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As you've discovered...
Pit bulls may be good at fighting, but are inclined to be very loving dogs.
Even if your dog has been raised to take advantage of this, though, you still need to be on top of accidents where they can cause injury through not understanding their own strength.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #212,446
6/24/05 12:50:18 PM
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Tossing the dog a box of chocolate bars . . .
. . will fix the problem. Dogs love chocolate.
Chocolate is also fatal to cats, but cats won't eat chocolate.
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Post #212,666
6/27/05 12:34:45 AM
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Chocolate's not good for dogs, either.
Ask any vet.
Wade.
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Post #212,670
6/27/05 1:10:06 AM
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That's what I implied . . .
. . with "will fix the problem" and "also fatal to cats".
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Post #212,795
6/28/05 1:24:37 AM
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D'oh. I misread.
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Post #212,671
6/27/05 1:59:19 AM
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"Fatal"?
You sure about that?
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Post #212,674
6/27/05 3:01:20 AM
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Yes
There are plenty of sites on the internet giving dosages and types of chocolate to sicken and kill. Here's the first one from a google search: [link|http://www.dogownersdigest.com/news/library/chocolate-dog-poisoning.shtml|
Chocolate Dog Poisoning].
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Post #212,707
6/27/05 12:55:32 PM
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Well...
On a recent trip to the US, I brought a box of chocolates as a gift. The family mutt (13 yo. chocolate lab...) burgled my suitcase and absconded with the whole pound. No ill results other than a brief spell of the runs and mutt absolutely want to know where the rest of the goods are...
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Post #212,708
6/27/05 12:59:46 PM
6/27/05 1:00:26 PM
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Nevermind
I misread your post.
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Post #212,709
6/27/05 1:18:08 PM
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Exactly the result...
...that is predicted by the toxicology.
Had that been a pound of baker's chocolate you would likely have been mourning the loss of the hound.
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Post #212,712
6/27/05 2:11:33 PM
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It's the theobromine in chocolate
For humans, it acts as a mood enhancer. Eating chocolate really does make you feel good. Comined with the caffeine found in cocoa, chocolate acts as a pick me up. Watch your coworkers head to the vending machines for a candy bar as they hit their mid afternoon slump.
Dogs and horses metabolize theobromine slower than we do- which is why its more toxic to them. It over-stimulates the heart and lowers blood pressure.
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