So you are all in favor...

Post #21,143 by bepatient 12/12/01 9:32:10 AM Reply	So you are all in favor... ...of our continued lack of respect for other cultures. Thats cool. I'm not. I've seen "ugly American" syndrome. I'm not a big fan. When were you indoctrinated into different cultures? When was a 2nd language demanded of you? We used to be able to afford ignorance...because so many of us stayed within our borders. Now its a penalty...and a very big problem. And this kind of crap just makes that issue more pronounced. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #21,147 by Silverlock 12/12/01 10:01:00 AM Reply	Nice two step Elegantly side stepping the point there Beep. Instead of addressing the issue that only the military female employees are ordered to wear a sack, you bring up the ugly american argument. Slick. Hard to defend against when it isn't the point that was being discussed originally. The State Department itself has guidelines for dress that are less restrictive than the military orders. -quote Dress. Although Westerners have some leeway in dress and social contacts within company residential compounds, both men and women should dress conservatively in public. Women's clothing should be loose fitting and concealing, with high necks, skirts worn well below the knee, and sleeves below the elbow. It is recommended that women not wear pants. -endquote [link\|http://usembassy.state.gov/posts/sa1/wwwhcn29.html\|[link\|http://usembassy.state.gov/posts/sa1/wwwhcn29.html\|http://usembassy.st...wwhcn29.html]] From what I remember of dress uniforms, they should fit the bill. Of course, work uniforms don't make it, the "no pants" guideline rules that out. The thing is, I agree with a lot of what you say, but the way you belittled and ridiculed the pilot trying to change what she sees as unfair treatment does you no credit. When I visit the aquarium, the same thought keeps running through my mind; Leemmmooonnn, Buuttteerrr, MMMmmmmmm good!
Post #21,152 by bepatient 12/12/01 10:19:35 AM Reply	Upthread [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=20954\|My previous post] where even the State Department recommends wearing the "sack" in the Riyadh area...where the military compound just happens to be located. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #21,156 by Silverlock 12/12/01 10:46:24 AM Reply	Yeah. And? I read it. Recommend vs. order. You still did the logic two step in the post I was responding to. When I visit the aquarium, the same thought keeps running through my mind; Leemmmooonnn, Buuttteerrr, MMMmmmmmm good!
Post #21,153 by CRConrad 12/12/01 10:21:23 AM Reply	You're making Marlowe's mistake: Conflating... ...Multiculturalism/Cultural Diversity with Moral Relativism; only, you're making it in reverse, compared to him. Where he needlessly blasts "Multiculturalism" because he abhors Moral Relativism, you are allowing Moral Relativism out of a needless zeal to promote Cultural Diversity. If only you -- both of you -- could see that they aren't the same thing, maybe you'd realize it's possible (and just and good and righteous too, BTW) to defend the one and at the same time condemn the other. (And no, I don't mean defend Moral Relativism and condemn Cultural Diversity! :-) HTH! Oh yes, almost forgot: At age five, as I'd think you very well know. Why -- what does it have to do with anything? Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything

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