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New Yep - new props with more "bite"
Still can't beat the drag on the frame though.

I recall that the upgraded 172 required that you apply power more gradually while building up speed on the runway. Otherwise the prop would "stall" and your takeoff roll would be much prolonged.

I should mention that they stuck with fixed pitch prop for "simplicity". More advanced planes have props that let you vary the pitch and I think you don't upgrade these, you just end up tuning the pitch differently. Pitch is selected based on engine manifold pressure at some rpm.



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Expand Edited by tuberculosis May 20, 2005, 09:53:54 AM EDT
New So the problem is ...
It
sounds like the problem is that a prop of a given diameter can only
generate a certain amount of thrust no matter what pitch and RPM you
use. Once you reach that point, your only options are less drag or a
larger prop. And the larger prop presents ...
interesting issues for take-off and landing.
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