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Post #205,994 by drewk 5/4/05 10:16:01 PM Reply	You lose "Every mom at Winnie's dance class says they hate the minivans. If there was anything else that did the same thing but didn't look like a minivan they'd switch in a heartbeat." She knows them better than she knows you. Looks like we'll be test-driving the Freestyle this weekend. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #206,063 by admin 5/5/05 9:23:10 AM Reply	She said it herself: "If there were anything else..." Looks aren't anything when it comes to what the minivans give you. Safest, biggest cargo space, most seats, best features inside. These things are made specifically for what she needs. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #206,106 by drewk 5/5/05 2:34:27 PM Reply	You didn't answer: have you actually seen the Freestyle? === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #206,139 by admin 5/5/05 5:52:40 PM Reply	Yeah, it looks like an SUV crossed with a wagon. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."

Question about car shopping - (drewk) - (93) - May 4, 2005, 08:08:01 PM EDT

Been there - get the minivan - (jbrabeck) - May 4, 2005, 08:14:38 PM EDT

vehix advertises like crazy - (tuberculosis) - (1) - May 4, 2005, 08:18:59 PM EDT

Or 25% for a loaded Honda Pilot. -NT - (mmoffitt) - May 5, 2005, 02:51:24 PM EDT

gowith the freestar - (boxley) - (8) - May 4, 2005, 08:24:28 PM EDT

But have any of you *seen* the Freestyle? - (drewk) - (7) - May 4, 2005, 08:36:52 PM EDT

I have seen it, test drove it,bought the freestar - (boxley) - May 4, 2005, 08:40:08 PM EDT

Chrysler Pacifica or Dodge Magnum. - (folkert) - (1) - May 4, 2005, 10:31:55 PM EDT

Same as the others - (drewk) - May 4, 2005, 10:51:22 PM EDT

Fuel Economy - (jbrabeck) - May 5, 2005, 09:44:34 AM EDT

CVT? - (admin) - (2) - May 5, 2005, 09:45:32 AM EDT

There doesn't seem to be much real-world benefit yet. - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 5, 2005, 09:56:07 AM EDT

That's the one. - (admin) - May 5, 2005, 10:42:13 AM EDT

www.autotrader.com? - (imric) - (2) - May 4, 2005, 08:29:57 PM EDT

Did you RTFP? I mentioned that. :-P -NT - (drewk) - (1) - May 4, 2005, 08:37:38 PM EDT

huhuh. Yeah. huhuhuh. - (imric) - May 4, 2005, 10:05:34 PM EDT

Maybe Edmunds? - (Another Scott) - (6) - May 4, 2005, 09:09:39 PM EDT

That's what I'm starting to think - (drewk) - (5) - May 4, 2005, 09:51:56 PM EDT

Just get the van. - (admin) - (4) - May 4, 2005, 10:07:02 PM EDT

You lose - (drewk) - (3) - May 4, 2005, 10:16:01 PM EDT

She said it herself: - (admin) - (2) - May 5, 2005, 09:23:10 AM EDT

You didn't answer: have you actually *seen* the Freestyle? -NT - (drewk) - (1) - May 5, 2005, 02:34:27 PM EDT

Yeah, it looks like an SUV crossed with a wagon. -NT - (admin) - May 5, 2005, 05:52:40 PM EDT

Buy the van - (Steve Lowe) - May 5, 2005, 12:22:18 AM EDT

Re: Question about car shopping - (dws) - May 5, 2005, 01:06:30 AM EDT

Get a pickup - (pwhysall) - (3) - May 5, 2005, 01:25:05 AM EDT

:D -NT - (Steve Lowe) - May 5, 2005, 01:36:37 AM EDT

extended cab to keep dog and wife warm :-) -NT - (jbrabeck) - (1) - May 5, 2005, 07:27:20 AM EDT

Re: extended cab to keep dog and wife warm :-) - (pwhysall) - May 5, 2005, 07:31:58 AM EDT

third row? - (Silverlock) - (52) - May 5, 2005, 03:36:25 PM EDT

Hey, only $18.5k! What a deal! -NT - (Another Scott) - May 5, 2005, 04:30:59 PM EDT

This is more efficient. - (mmoffitt) - (49) - May 5, 2005, 04:53:33 PM EDT

Just tell me that those transistors aren't - (Ashton) - (1) - May 11, 2005, 09:05:02 PM EDT

thats why my choice is better still uses tubes :-) -NT - (boxley) - May 11, 2005, 09:10:02 PM EDT

druther have one of these - (boxley) - (43) - May 11, 2005, 09:09:25 PM EDT

Looks noisy - (tuberculosis) - (42) - May 11, 2005, 09:27:38 PM EDT

Since we're talking blue sky... - (Another Scott) - May 11, 2005, 09:42:40 PM EDT

well yours looks pricy :-) - (boxley) - May 11, 2005, 09:46:52 PM EDT

I'm partial to something more like one of... - (cforde) - (4) - May 11, 2005, 09:48:49 PM EDT

45k and you have to assemble it yourself? - (boxley) - (2) - May 11, 2005, 10:05:34 PM EDT

balsa and fabric? - (cforde) - (1) - May 13, 2005, 02:06:17 AM EDT

Best construction materials! EVAR! - (folkert) - May 13, 2005, 08:40:41 AM EDT

Verra nice - (Ashton) - May 12, 2005, 05:28:01 AM EDT

Don't forget this one. - (mmoffitt) - (34) - May 13, 2005, 04:44:37 PM EDT

Ah brute force - (tuberculosis) - (33) - May 16, 2005, 01:46:45 PM EDT

What I find interesting is ... - (mmoffitt) - (32) - May 18, 2005, 01:12:26 PM EDT

"pay so much to haul so little" - (Ashton) - May 19, 2005, 02:28:20 AM EDT

Bigger engines don't make planes go faster - (tuberculosis) - (30) - May 19, 2005, 02:04:13 PM EDT

s /emron/Imron :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - May 19, 2005, 04:32:14 PM EDT

Is the problem propeller pitch? - (drewk) - (2) - May 19, 2005, 05:14:21 PM EDT

Yep - new props with more "bite" - (tuberculosis) - (1) - May 20, 2005, 09:53:54 AM EDT

So the problem is ... - (drewk) - May 20, 2005, 09:56:00 AM EDT

Hold it. - (mmoffitt) - (25) - May 20, 2005, 03:28:10 PM EDT

Re: Hold it. - (tuberculosis) - (24) - May 20, 2005, 05:31:32 PM EDT

Agreed. -NT - (mmoffitt) - May 20, 2005, 05:38:29 PM EDT

Uh, square law = Must *quadruple* power to double speed, no? -NT - (CRConrad) - (22) - May 23, 2005, 04:56:57 PM EDT

Nah, make him try for 21025 hp -NT - (drewk) - (7) - May 23, 2005, 05:08:31 PM EDT

Thing is, if you square it in kW, it makes only 15474.4 hp. - (CRConrad) - (5) - May 23, 2005, 05:29:29 PM EDT

An 8-legged animal lifting a bucket that grows as it rises? -NT - (drewk) - (4) - May 23, 2005, 05:41:31 PM EDT

"Itsy Bitsy Sleipner..." ? - (CRConrad) - (3) - May 24, 2005, 03:28:15 AM EDT

I think he meant a 16-legged horse lifting a weight... -NT - (Another Scott) - May 24, 2005, 08:27:24 AM EDT

Defn: horsepower - (drewk) - (1) - May 24, 2005, 12:58:30 PM EDT

..it's hard to get this stuff across to Fundies_____er, :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - May 25, 2005, 03:06:30 AM EDT

Turbine ---aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh--- Turbine. -NT - (mmoffitt) - May 23, 2005, 05:29:32 PM EDT

Power required goes as cube of speed. - (Another Scott) - (12) - May 23, 2005, 05:39:32 PM EDT

"cube of speed" - again, what units? km/h cubed != mph cubed - (CRConrad) - (11) - May 24, 2005, 04:51:56 AM EDT

The linky explains all that. - (Another Scott) - (10) - May 24, 2005, 08:26:00 AM EDT

Oh fer cryin out loud (new thread) - (tuberculosis) - May 24, 2005, 07:09:40 PM EDT

Yup.. *bloody* pounds! and feet! + Another formula: - (Ashton) - (8) - May 26, 2005, 05:49:12 AM EDT

Neat. - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 26, 2005, 07:45:23 AM EDT

Funny you should mention.. - (Ashton) - May 26, 2005, 09:53:39 PM EDT

every redneck with a wrench knows that 14mm=* 9/16ths -NT - (boxley) - (5) - May 26, 2005, 10:18:29 AM EDT

Bah; old-Volvo fans know 14mm wrench will NOT fit 9/16 bolt! -NT - (CRConrad) - (4) - May 26, 2005, 11:08:41 AM EDT

horses duervers! fits just fine - (boxley) - (3) - May 26, 2005, 02:09:09 PM EDT

Funny. Either your bolts or your wrenches are off measure. - (CRConrad) - (2) - May 26, 2005, 04:24:53 PM EDT

try 13.8 mm if larger than, it would fit on would it? - (boxley) - (1) - May 26, 2005, 10:09:20 PM EDT

No, IF 13.8 mm were larger than 14 mm then a 14 mm wrench... - (CRConrad) - May 27, 2005, 08:20:07 AM EDT

OT: Hey CRC I'm looking for you in Open Forum - (jbrabeck) - May 24, 2005, 02:27:03 PM EDT

Lemme guess - still no flush rivets - (tuberculosis) - May 11, 2005, 09:21:48 PM EDT

If both endpoints are airports... -NT - (admin) - (1) - May 11, 2005, 09:22:09 PM EDT

on mine you just need 170 meters of low grass. -NT - (boxley) - May 11, 2005, 09:24:24 PM EDT

NO, No, No.... - (folkert) - May 5, 2005, 06:32:54 PM EDT

Why "besides the front row"? Some weird Yank taboo...? -NT - (CRConrad) - (11) - May 7, 2005, 05:39:07 PM EDT

"Air bags" are known to kill small passengers. - (a6l6e6x) - (10) - May 7, 2005, 05:47:50 PM EDT

Typical; "Why do the smart thing, when you can buy a tank?" - (CRConrad) - (9) - May 8, 2005, 02:10:16 PM EDT

Middle seat in the back is safest, HTH! - (admin) - (6) - May 8, 2005, 03:50:55 PM EDT

So, neither of you have read "Garp", I take it...? -NT - (CRConrad) - (5) - May 8, 2005, 05:18:45 PM EDT

Ouch. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 8, 2005, 05:20:49 PM EDT

Yeah, well... And it HAD to be a friggin PV 544, dinnit? :-( -NT - (CRConrad) - May 8, 2005, 05:29:05 PM EDT

Nope. - (admin) - (2) - May 8, 2005, 08:24:17 PM EDT

Yeah, well... *American* "safety information", you mean? -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 9, 2005, 01:54:12 AM EDT

As opposed to "Garp"...? -NT - (admin) - May 9, 2005, 09:33:10 AM EDT

You wanna get sued? - (drewk) - (1) - May 9, 2005, 12:58:03 AM EDT

Yeah, lots of stuff comes with those stickers nowadays. - (CRConrad) - May 9, 2005, 01:53:32 AM EDT

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