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New I just pitched C#
I ASSUME it will be just as stupid as far as interface VS code issues as VB.Net. It seems like there is a lot of "almost there" in the GUI, and then you write some obscure code.

At least the obscure code will be C based.
New You just described all of MS' programming languages.
It seems like there is a lot of "almost there" in the GUI, and then you write some obscure code.


Every API and every programming environment from Microsoft that I have worked in has been like this. C/C++ 7. QuickBASIC. Visual C++ v1 (Win16 API). VB 1. WordBasic. VBA in Access and Excel. Even QuickC+Assembler which was really quite a good, if a little obscure, product; it was hampered by the fact that you were programming under MS-DOS.

In Microsoft-land, obscure code is *always* required to make the API dance the way you need it to rather than the way Microsoft believes you will want it to.

Wade.

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

     VB - NO CONTINUE STATEMENT!! ARRGG!!! - (broomberg) - (38)
         Basic was invented that way - (ChrisR) - (16)
             Has had "continue" for many years - (broomberg) - (15)
                 In VB 6 you have - (lincoln) - (1)
                     Exit loop is there - (broomberg)
                 Or you COULD... - (jb4) - (12)
                     In other words, give a "break"! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                     No way! - (broomberg) - (10)
                         Yet Another Way To Do It - (ben_tilly)
                         Warning! Possible religious war pending - (jb4) - (8)
                             Nah, this is more important - (broomberg) - (7)
                                 Some older languages had those constructs - (jb4) - (6)
                                     That doesn't need to be addressed - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                                         If I didn't know better ... - (drewk) - (3)
                                             Good thing that you know better then :-) - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                 You forgot: - (jb4) - (1)
                                                     Rules of thumb are rules of thumb - (ben_tilly)
                                         That'd be the Cyclomatic Complexity - (jb4)
         Answer: - (FuManChu) - (17)
             VB is not a Programming Language, it's a Product. -NT - (ChrisR) - (16)
                 So if I WAS to fight, again, what are my alternatives? - (broomberg) - (15)
                     Rython ror Rerl ror Reecee-ell ror a rombo of rall rhree ; - (folkert) - (7)
                         TCL - Never!!!! - (broomberg) - (6)
                             Careful what you ask for... - (folkert) - (2)
                                 I see you ignored the previous. Barry - (folkert) - (1)
                                     Who says? - (broomberg)
                             Come on, TCL and BASIC are as far apart - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                                 Lisp is not procedural?? - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                     Parenthetically speaking that is. :) -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                     C# is a better match - (ChrisR)
                     ObCRC: Delphi - (Another Scott) - (2)
                         I just pitched C# - (broomberg) - (1)
                             You just described all of MS' programming languages. - (static)
                     Python wins on several of those axes - (FuManChu)
                     Sounds exactly like... - (jb4) - (1)
                         Oh, what's the use?! "Nobody is as blind...", and so on. :-( -NT - (CRConrad)
         Side effect - (JayMehaffey)
         FWIW, VB.Net 2005 will have it -NT - (altmann) - (1)
             ObLRPD: It'll be in the next release.... -NT - (jb4)

Whoa-ho-ho, nice shootin', Tex!
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