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Post #162,395 by mmoffitt 6/30/04 11:47:31 PM Reply	Yes. But I didn't, and more importantly my daughter didn't, get the "only acceptable option" notion out of our chat. To be sure (I think) Ben and I agree that teen promiscuity does indeed cause harm. That was a fundamental message ("parts of the castle are broken") and that got through - and was later translated to a friend in her own words, but using the story she'd heard. I don't think it can be disputed that little girls having sex at 12 or 13 is not a good idea. bcnu, Mikem If you can read this, you are not the President.
Post #162,404 by broomberg 7/1/04 12:22:05 AM Reply	No argument there My daughter is 12. And passes for 16 without trying. 18 if she wants to.
Post #162,410 by ben_tilly 7/1/04 12:49:10 AM Reply	You've said nothing indicating that But I didn't, and more importantly my daughter didn't, get the "only acceptable option" notion out of our chat. There is nothing in what you said, or how you related what she said, that indicates this. Furthermore this thread was initiated in a post where you explained why you believed that your daughter shouldn't have sex until marriage, and where you offered how you explained this to her. And indeed, your offered explanation clearly stated that women should never have sex until marrying Mr. Right, and made it clear that women who didn't succeed in this are permanently worse than women who succeeded. Both of which are messages that I believe to be harmful. If I've drawn incorrect conclusions from this, then please accept that I was really addressing other parents that I've known, and my comments are inapplicable to you. Cheers, Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #162,411 by mmoffitt 7/1/04 12:53:07 AM Reply	Well, that certainly wasn't my intent. And typing this up I probably didn't get it quite right, but I can assure you that the message was much better received by my daughter than your interpretation of what I wrote. The story left her the message that "if I have sex, there are consequences, some of which I won't like". If I had to bet, I'd bet that was all she got out of it at 11. And this notion has only been fortified by her observing some of her classmates. bcnu, Mikem If you can read this, you are not the President.

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