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New Re: I didn't judge by one.

  • Bull. I have not called for your death or the death of your family - or any other broad class or group.

  • I am on record for saying we would be better off without the three "revealed religions" because of their historically well proven tendency to repress and/or slaughter each other and members of any other faith or opinion. This has resulted in constant bloodshed.

  • I have never called for the killing of members of these religions as an acceptable way to diminsh them, in fact, I recently called someone else on his opinion that Muslims should be killed indiscriminently.

  • I continue to urge resistance against the fundamentalists in these religions because their prime objective is to supress my freedom to hold the opinions and beliefs I choose, and the near certainty they would eagerly kill those of all other faiths if they were allowed to, as they have done in the past and as all three are doing today in the Near East, Africa, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand and elsewhere.

  • I have stated there will likely come a mass slaughter of Islam but did not endorse this slaughter. I think it is a high probability because there is no strong moderate faction to hold the radicals in check - moderate is not allowed by Islam. Given the easy availability of WDMs, the radicals are likely to do something that will cause someone to turn Mecca into a glassy crater, and then all hell breaks loose.

  • Currently moderate Jews and Christians are suspicious of their own fundamentalists and help to keep them in check. This is good, but the fundies still bear careful watching because they know how to leverage religious afinity with other Christian groups to get them to support things they don't really agree with.

  • If your faith is so fragile you cannot stand up to the kind of pressure non-Christians have to stand up to all day every day, that is your problem, not mine.


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New Ah yes, the old
"We get death threats every day, it's about time you got yours!" rote.

I don't get riled up when I see that kind of crap in any old forum. I do get riled up when I see it spewing out of people I reckon ought to know better. I can't believe Mike didn't realize that there were people he KNEW who he'd put on that oh-so-broad list... so all of a sudden I found myself categorized as "acceptable losses."

What the fuck, Andrew? What the hell does that have to do with fragile faith? When did I ever call for Mike's death? I'm not talking about some religious nutjob you read about in the paper -- I'm talking about ME.

Yes, that IS a lot more personal and it IS very different. But hey, I guess I deserve it somehow. How grand that I'm finally getting a taste of my own.

And for the record, since your only participation in that thread was to support parts of Mike's original statement, I assumed by your silence that you were there simply to back him up. That may have been wrong but it is reasonable.
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
     Why I Only Lurk Here These Days - (cwbrenn) - (43)
         Don't you know - people do such things - (Arkadiy) - (24)
             Some athiests - (cwbrenn) - (22)
                 Judge not by one member. - (inthane-chan) - (21)
                     I didn't judge by one. - (cwbrenn) - (20)
                         Wow.... - (Nightowl)
                         You'll note... - (inthane-chan)
                         Hmm, interesting parallel I hadn't noticed before - (drewk) - (13)
                             Now CRC is going to get all riled up again . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (12)
                                 Shares the trait of being internally consistent - (drewk) - (5)
                                     Generalization - (ChrisR) - (4)
                                         Michael Shermer: Why People Believe Weird Things - (drewk)
                                         "Why People Believe Weird Things" - by Michael Shermer -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                         Heinlein said it best - (Silverlock)
                                         Dup. Ignore -NT - (Silverlock)
                                 Right.. we've had that one. - (Ashton)
                                 Well, atheism is not a religion - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                                     well it is a belief system with some more rabid - (boxley) - (3)
                                         Excuse me? - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                             here ya go - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 I don't consider that example nearly sufficient (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                         Re: I didn't judge by one. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                             Ah yes, the old - (cwbrenn)
                         Excuse me, why am I in that list? - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                             You're right -- I owe you an apology - (cwbrenn)
             I am not an aethiest. - (mmoffitt)
         the day a rabid commie upsets you - (boxley)
         Heck I don't even lurk the forums in question. - (ChrisR)
         A phrase heard recently - - (Ashton)
         Jesus H Christ On A Dead Gay Baby Seal Powered Moped! - (pwhysall) - (8)
             seal oil makes a fair dinkum fuel - (boxley) - (6)
                 Only an Alaskan could appreciate such things -NT - (ChrisR) - (5)
                     I think a Newfie would well have an even greater - (jake123) - (4)
                         dupe ignore -NT - (boxley)
                         well why dont they use it? Pictures I have seen - (boxley) - (2)
                             I'm not so sure about that - (jake123) - (1)
                                 render it locally as I am sure it would work in a deisel - (boxley)
             A-freaking-men -NT - (FuManChu)
         What are you thick or something? - (mmoffitt) - (4)
             Oh, I forgot. - (cwbrenn) - (3)
                 No, I wasn't joking. And no, I don't think you're thick... - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                     Well it seemed that way - (Nightowl) - (1)
                         It could be satire - (jake123)
         My .02 - (andread)

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