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Post #151,755 by bluke 4/19/04 11:04:33 AM 4/19/04 11:04:54 AM Reply	What do you mean? The Arabs have money and therefore what? I don't see what money has to do with it. It seems to that it has to do with the fact that the Kurds live in Turkey, Iraq and Syria. The Arabs have oil and 22 countries so everyone treats them nice and Turkey has been a major US ally. Edited by bluke April 19, 2004, 11:04:54 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #151,759 by jbrabeck 4/19/04 11:26:22 AM Reply	What does the US gain from a Kurdish state? Nothing. Would upset Turkey. Would upset Syria. Would upset Iraq. Since a Kurdish state doesn't offer anything why should/would the US want to get involved?
Post #151,763 by bluke 4/19/04 11:31:17 AM 4/19/04 11:32:20 AM Reply	What does the US gain from a Palestinian state? No one in the Arab world really wants one. Given the situation there any Palestinian state would probably be either an Islamic state or a failed state which is not in the US interests either. If anyone in the Arab world really cared about the Palestinians the refugees would not be sitting in refugee camps for 55+ years. Edited by bluke April 19, 2004, 11:32:20 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #151,766 by boxley 4/19/04 12:13:18 PM Reply	We have a lot to gain for precisely the reasons you gave The Arabs do not want an independant Palestinian state as the palestinians are the jews of the arab world. Hated, mistrusted and abused. Unfortunately the last 50 years of struggle has made giving them their own state the only method of self determination available to them. Whether it is an Islamic state or a failed state makes no difference, it will be their state. As for that effect on Israel, nothing will change the fact that the world wishes that the Jews would just go away and disappear from the face of the earth so it annoys them to see Jews in the news every day. thanx, bill "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

Why not a Kurdish state? - (bluke) - (37) - April 19, 2004, 04:41:38 AM EDT

Be careful with the words "No-one". - (pwhysall) - (12) - April 19, 2004, 07:10:38 AM EDT

agreed -NT - (boxley) - April 19, 2004, 08:12:25 AM EDT

People who grind axes usually can't. - (jake123) - April 19, 2004, 08:37:04 AM EDT

Ok, but where is the UN ... - (bluke) - (9) - April 19, 2004, 10:31:47 AM EDT

Money -NT - (jbrabeck) - (4) - April 19, 2004, 10:40:17 AM EDT

What do you mean? - (bluke) - (3) - April 19, 2004, 11:04:54 AM EDT

What does the US gain from a Kurdish state? - (jbrabeck) - (2) - April 19, 2004, 11:26:22 AM EDT

What does the US gain from a Palestinian state? - (bluke) - (1) - April 19, 2004, 11:32:20 AM EDT

We have a lot to gain for precisely the reasons you gave - (boxley) - April 19, 2004, 12:13:18 PM EDT

No comparison, I agree - (GBert) - (3) - April 19, 2004, 11:06:12 AM EDT

If anything the Kurds have a much stronger case - (bluke) - (2) - April 19, 2004, 11:26:39 AM EDT

Don't get me wrong. - (jbrabeck) - (1) - April 19, 2004, 11:29:40 AM EDT

Kurd state would own most of Iraqs oil -NT - (boxley) - April 19, 2004, 12:05:41 PM EDT

Personally, I think we should've - (ChrisR) - (1) - April 19, 2004, 11:25:07 AM EDT

Turkey wouldnt like it - (boxley) - April 19, 2004, 11:27:21 AM EDT

Re: Why not a Kurdish state? - (JayMehaffey) - (21) - April 19, 2004, 12:53:22 PM EDT

And the reason why the US would look like an imperial ... - (bluke) - (20) - April 19, 2004, 01:06:26 PM EDT

Better advertising - (JayMehaffey) - (19) - April 19, 2004, 01:13:13 PM EDT

I would suggest a different reason - (bluke) - (16) - April 19, 2004, 01:18:55 PM EDT

How many Americans - (jbrabeck) - (11) - April 19, 2004, 01:24:39 PM EDT

the AFRICAN america congress group doenst care either -NT - (boxley) - April 19, 2004, 01:27:02 PM EDT

If that was the case ... - (bluke) - (9) - April 19, 2004, 01:34:27 PM EDT

With that question, you show that you don't live here. - (jbrabeck) - (8) - April 19, 2004, 01:42:31 PM EDT

And just imagine it was a Republican who put him there - (bluke) - (7) - April 19, 2004, 01:47:54 PM EDT

Tokens. - (pwhysall) - (6) - April 19, 2004, 01:50:37 PM EDT

many times since the roman days - (boxley) - April 19, 2004, 01:52:30 PM EDT

So did we... - (jbrabeck) - April 19, 2004, 01:52:40 PM EDT

You're being loose with the definition of "woman" again. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (3) - April 19, 2004, 01:53:46 PM EDT

queen E 1st&2nd Mary Queen of Scots etc etc -NT - (boxley) - (2) - April 19, 2004, 01:56:17 PM EDT

Ah, I was focusing (too much) on the elected. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (1) - April 19, 2004, 02:10:12 PM EDT

ObLRPD: Supreme executive power derives from a mandate ... - (Yendor) - April 19, 2004, 03:05:50 PM EDT

Yes, and you would want to have a "final solution" - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - April 19, 2004, 05:28:19 PM EDT

Now that last 2 I can agree with -NT - (boxley) - April 19, 2004, 10:27:18 PM EDT

Not at all - (bluke) - (1) - April 20, 2004, 02:21:16 AM EDT

Jordan is not a Palestinian state, the Jordanians - (boxley) - April 20, 2004, 08:09:10 AM EDT

Better advertising by hijacking planes???? - (bluke) - (1) - April 19, 2004, 01:20:40 PM EDT

Yes, of course; saw all that on TV all the time, didn't ya? -NT - (CRConrad) - May 18, 2004, 08:35:06 AM EDT

I think I'll go for a walk.
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