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10/21/01 3:55:13 AM

I believe...

...that was covered in the .pdf doc I linked to regarding the gini coefficient.

Dink housedholds and a growing population of single parents is making the disparity greater.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson}

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Post #14,404

10/21/01 4:37:24 AM

I don't see it there

Can you produce a specific quote from the section which you think covers it?

As far as I can tell, it isn't there. And methodologically the question is unaddressable. Their tool is measurement of family income. Without a way to address the value of housework, to them a family which has both parents working has more income and therefore is better off. There is simply no way to account for the value lost to the family because there isn't someone taking care of the home any more. That value is very literally outside the accounting system.

Now we all know from real life that having both parents work means that you have obvious large financial costs you would otherwise avoid. But putting a dollar value on that is far easier said than done.

Now they do talk about single parents skewing the disparity statistics. But they are just pointing out that single parent households tend to have lower income. In other words they are saying that by their measurement system, single parent families are worse. They aren't talking there about the extent of how what they are measureing does not match subjective reality for those households.

Cheers,
Ben

Shhhhh. Don't tell anyone. The wrong guy's in charge. - (mmoffitt) - (65) - Oct. 15, 2001, 10:15:54 AM EDT

Yawn.... - (bepatient) - (49) - Oct. 15, 2001, 10:39:58 AM EDT

Why wouldn't they release the results? - (Silverlock) - (48) - Oct. 15, 2001, 11:00:07 AM EDT

Whats the point? - (bepatient) - (47) - Oct. 15, 2001, 11:26:09 AM EDT

designed? - (Silverlock) - (46) - Oct. 15, 2001, 11:56:56 AM EDT

Ah, but remember "we have to watch what we say/do now" :-( -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 15, 2001, 12:41:16 PM EDT

Damn, I forgot. - (Silverlock) - Oct. 15, 2001, 12:50:03 PM EDT

Re: designed? - (bepatient) - (43) - Oct. 15, 2001, 01:07:03 PM EDT

How are things in Wonderland? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 15, 2001, 05:48:45 PM EDT

Go ask Alice...when she's ten feet tall. -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 15, 2001, 09:13:25 PM EDT

Of course; that very same freedom of the Corporate press - (Ashton) - (40) - Oct. 15, 2001, 08:40:07 PM EDT

I have discounted US media for a very long time... - (bepatient) - (39) - Oct. 15, 2001, 09:18:35 PM EDT

Yes, of course. - (Ashton) - (34) - Oct. 15, 2001, 09:43:01 PM EDT

Social consequence... - (bepatient) - (33) - Oct. 15, 2001, 10:37:56 PM EDT

So then.. - (Ashton) - (32) - Oct. 16, 2001, 05:37:15 AM EDT

Minor Nit. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 16, 2001, 10:20:11 AM EDT

The part that your missing... - (bepatient) - (28) - Oct. 16, 2001, 10:31:33 AM EDT

Oh, that's good. - (mmoffitt) - (27) - Oct. 16, 2001, 11:05:30 AM EDT

OoaT (Off on a Tangent) - (drewk) - (6) - Oct. 16, 2001, 11:18:04 AM EDT

Don't assume static output. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 16, 2001, 11:52:01 AM EDT

I don't see it that way - (Silverlock) - (4) - Oct. 16, 2001, 12:36:47 PM EDT

It's the shift to a service industry, too - (drewk) - (3) - Oct. 16, 2001, 12:56:32 PM EDT

Yes, that's the scale I'd prefer to think about - at least - (Ashton) - Oct. 16, 2001, 06:47:58 PM EDT

Star Trek - (Brandioch) - (1) - Oct. 17, 2001, 12:28:59 PM EDT

..Yeah .. but___ it's a *dry heat*____________________:-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 17, 2001, 02:43:14 PM EDT

Hmm... - (bepatient) - (19) - Oct. 16, 2001, 12:51:58 PM EDT

Nice Try. - (mmoffitt) - (15) - Oct. 16, 2001, 04:36:42 PM EDT

So you don't like averages - (bepatient) - (14) - Oct. 16, 2001, 05:57:17 PM EDT

You are nothing, if not a gentleman. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 16, 2001, 10:48:41 PM EDT

Addendum. - (mmoffitt) - (12) - Oct. 16, 2001, 10:56:16 PM EDT

I read the link... - (bepatient) - (11) - Oct. 17, 2001, 01:39:38 PM EDT

That last does tend to indicate, however - (Ashton) - (10) - Oct. 17, 2001, 03:05:04 PM EDT

Dismal Science. - (bepatient) - (9) - Oct. 17, 2001, 08:13:32 PM EDT

Are you describing, endorsing or wishing? - (Ashton) - Oct. 18, 2001, 04:16:23 AM EDT

Aren't you putting de SCART before the hobby-horse? - (CRConrad) - (7) - Oct. 18, 2001, 08:08:18 AM EDT

Boy did you guys miss my point. - (bepatient) - (6) - Oct. 18, 2001, 05:14:09 PM EDT

I didn't study Econ, but I'm not following this. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Oct. 18, 2001, 12:12:41 PM EDT

It may be a minor nit.... - (bepatient) - (3) - Oct. 18, 2001, 03:31:04 PM EDT

Much better! - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 18, 2001, 04:00:52 PM EDT

Wow...my very own LRPD...*blush* -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 18, 2001, 05:12:36 PM EDT

Seemed more a dripping thorn.. howsomeever - - (Ashton) - Oct. 19, 2001, 02:23:59 AM EDT

OK, sorry -- I was going to ask, but must have forgotten: - (CRConrad) - Oct. 18, 2001, 04:00:13 PM EDT

Per capita income is *not* the same as wages - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Oct. 21, 2001, 02:54:39 AM EDT

I believe... - (bepatient) - (1) - Oct. 21, 2001, 03:55:13 AM EDT

I don't see it there - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 21, 2001, 04:37:24 AM EDT

Ashton...Haven't you just recited the Ferengi constitution? -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Oct. 17, 2001, 09:09:15 AM EDT

Is there a difference - theirs / ours *in practice* ? - (Ashton) - Oct. 17, 2001, 03:15:18 PM EDT

One thing that NPR carries... - (inthane-chan) - (3) - Oct. 15, 2001, 11:37:30 PM EDT

Most convenient. - (bepatient) - (2) - Oct. 16, 2001, 12:58:42 PM EDT

Yes - when you're near an internet connection. - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Oct. 16, 2001, 01:09:18 PM EDT

Quite so, quite so. -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 16, 2001, 01:24:29 PM EDT

Of *course* the wrong guy's in charge. - (marlowe) - (14) - Oct. 17, 2001, 02:09:35 PM EDT

For once... - (inthane-chan) - (10) - Oct. 17, 2001, 02:42:37 PM EDT

Why did the ground under my feet just move? - (bepatient) - (9) - Oct. 17, 2001, 02:44:23 PM EDT

Even more agreement: exactly! - (Ashton) - Oct. 17, 2001, 03:36:23 PM EDT

OK. Who would have been the "right" guy or gal? - (Another Scott) - (5) - Oct. 17, 2001, 04:12:55 PM EDT

If they'd given us a choice between McCain and Bradley... - (marlowe) - Oct. 17, 2001, 04:33:19 PM EDT

Karl Marx. But he's dead. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 17, 2001, 07:00:09 PM EDT

Oh, great, had to go and ruin it, eh? - (admin) - (1) - Oct. 17, 2001, 07:16:41 PM EDT

They don't call me "Threadkiller" for nothin' ya know. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 18, 2001, 01:08:05 PM EDT

Thats an easy one... - (bepatient) - Oct. 17, 2001, 08:18:59 PM EDT

That's twice in one year... - (jb4) - (1) - Oct. 18, 2001, 09:02:14 AM EDT

I think I just saw the Devil's breath! -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 18, 2001, 10:20:49 AM EDT

New ski resort opens in hell! - (Silverlock) - (1) - Oct. 17, 2001, 03:19:30 PM EDT

Yabut - that's only about the stark fact. - (Ashton) - Oct. 17, 2001, 03:42:49 PM EDT

Concur. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 17, 2001, 03:39:23 PM EDT

You take my saffron now you got to pay.
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