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Post #135,398 by Nightowl 1/13/04 11:33:35 AM Reply	Noted. Only thing not understood is how it is being self-asorbed to be trying to change my behavior to be a better member of iwethey. Thanks for the honesty. Nightowl >8# "It is understanding that gives us an ability to have peace. When we understand the other fellow's viewpoint, and he understands ours, then we can sit down and work out our differences." Harry S. Truman "Whenever you're in conflict with someone, there is one factor that can make the difference between damaging your relationship and deepening it. That factor is attitude." Timothy Bentley
Post #135,402 by jake123 1/13/04 11:38:02 AM Reply	I think the issue is that most folks want you to stop talking about how to change your behaviour and just do so. You know, I think most people here like you (with the obvious exception). They'd just rather you do things like play the song game, yak about andre (your PC, iirc), wacked out weather in St. Louis, etc, without going into the psychology of it all... --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #135,409 by Nightowl 1/13/04 11:42:30 AM Reply	Thank you That helps too. Like I said, this thread is ending today, I just was giving everyone else a chance to speak their minds before ending it. Nightowl >8# "It is understanding that gives us an ability to have peace. When we understand the other fellow's viewpoint, and he understands ours, then we can sit down and work out our differences." Harry S. Truman "Whenever you're in conflict with someone, there is one factor that can make the difference between damaging your relationship and deepening it. That factor is attitude." Timothy Bentley
Post #135,405 by pwhysall 1/13/04 11:39:12 AM Reply	Key words: "drop it". Stop trying to obtain a recipe for zIWETHEY doubleplusgood newthink and just take on board what's been said, and move on. Between BeeP, Gryge and myself, you have all the information you need. Take it forward, and start by posting about stuff, instead of introspective internet touchy-feely tree-hugging hippie crap like the rubbish you and Norm have been posting to each other. Go yak about cars. Go yak about hockey. That's STUFF. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #135,406 by Nightowl 1/13/04 11:40:57 AM 1/13/04 11:43:41 AM Reply	Thank you! Much better explanation. Nightowl >8# P.S. You see, telling me to get my head out of my ass means absolutely nothing to me, I have no idea what it means. So this was better. :) "It is understanding that gives us an ability to have peace. When we understand the other fellow's viewpoint, and he understands ours, then we can sit down and work out our differences." Harry S. Truman "Whenever you're in conflict with someone, there is one factor that can make the difference between damaging your relationship and deepening it. That factor is attitude." Timothy Bentley Edited by Nightowl Jan. 13, 2004, 11:43:41 AM EST Expand All History

Asking you all to be honest... - (Nightowl) - (54) - Jan. 12, 2004, 12:38:08 AM EST

Re: Asking you all to be honest... - (deSitter) - (1) - Jan. 12, 2004, 12:31:16 AM EST

You just don't listen. (new thread) - (Nightowl) - Jan. 12, 2004, 12:34:47 AM EST

Peers? - (broomberg) - (5) - Jan. 12, 2004, 12:52:11 AM EST

Re: Peers? - (Nightowl) - Jan. 12, 2004, 12:59:56 AM EST

Meant to address this too :) - (Nightowl) - (2) - Jan. 12, 2004, 01:57:24 AM EST

What is this "rights" stuff? - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 12, 2004, 07:05:23 AM EST

I explained that. - (Nightowl) - Jan. 12, 2004, 11:09:49 AM EST

About my postings here - (orion) - Jan. 12, 2004, 10:55:57 AM EST

My honest response - (ben_tilly) - (7) - Jan. 12, 2004, 01:39:16 AM EST

Re: My honest response - (Nightowl) - (6) - Jan. 12, 2004, 01:15:20 AM EST

You reversed the meaning - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Jan. 12, 2004, 01:28:28 AM EST

Re: You reversed the meaning - (Nightowl) - (4) - Jan. 12, 2004, 01:30:50 AM EST

Oops, I'd left in the word "either" wrongly -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Jan. 12, 2004, 01:39:49 AM EST

Huh? - (Nightowl) - (1) - Jan. 12, 2004, 01:58:17 AM EST

NFC about your car discussion - (ben_tilly) - Jan. 12, 2004, 10:08:06 AM EST

Re: You reversed the meaning (new thread) - (deSitter) - Jan. 12, 2004, 01:47:23 AM EST

You want honest. - (bepatient) - (3) - Jan. 12, 2004, 02:49:24 AM EST

+1, Insightful -NT - (pwhysall) - Jan. 12, 2004, 03:02:00 AM EST

Point taken. - (Nightowl) - Jan. 12, 2004, 11:08:29 AM EST

Ditto! - (tuberculosis) - Jan. 12, 2004, 01:01:10 PM EST

I can honestly tell you - (orion) - (5) - Jan. 12, 2004, 11:05:00 AM EST

Also noted and understood. :) - (Nightowl) - (4) - Jan. 12, 2004, 11:11:52 AM EST

Another point - (orion) - (3) - Jan. 12, 2004, 11:21:24 AM EST

Take this to email - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Jan. 12, 2004, 11:32:14 AM EST

Re: Take this to email - (Nightowl) - Jan. 12, 2004, 11:45:43 AM EST

Thank you Ben for pointing that out. +5 for correct. -NT - (bepatient) - Jan. 12, 2004, 11:39:54 AM EST

It's just amazing . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8) - Jan. 12, 2004, 01:31:14 PM EST

I don't ever get clues. - (Nightowl) - (7) - Jan. 12, 2004, 01:37:30 PM EST

OK - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Jan. 12, 2004, 02:14:06 PM EST

Yep - (Nightowl) - (2) - Jan. 12, 2004, 02:21:19 PM EST

And don't think for a moment that I don't know . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Jan. 12, 2004, 02:37:35 PM EST

Believe what you want - (Nightowl) - Jan. 12, 2004, 02:47:56 PM EST

We took it to another place - (orion) - Jan. 12, 2004, 04:44:37 PM EST

That means you're too stupid to be here. HTH! -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Jan. 12, 2004, 02:33:25 PM EST

Re: That means you're too stupid to be here. HTH! - (Nightowl) - Jan. 12, 2004, 02:48:54 PM EST

What you don't like about my posts so far... - (Nightowl) - (18) - Jan. 13, 2004, 11:22:36 AM EST

Extract head from /dev/ass - (pwhysall) - (8) - Jan. 13, 2004, 11:27:17 AM EST

Noted. - (Nightowl) - (4) - Jan. 13, 2004, 11:33:35 AM EST

I think the issue is - (jake123) - (1) - Jan. 13, 2004, 11:38:02 AM EST

Thank you - (Nightowl) - Jan. 13, 2004, 11:42:30 AM EST

Key words: "drop it". - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 13, 2004, 11:39:12 AM EST

Thank you! - (Nightowl) - Jan. 13, 2004, 11:43:41 AM EST

Does "me" count, too? - (jb4) - (2) - Jan. 13, 2004, 12:40:09 PM EST

Don't make /me come over there... -NT - (pwhysall) - Jan. 13, 2004, 12:43:00 PM EST

*fwap* -NT - (bepatient) - Jan. 13, 2004, 12:45:54 PM EST

Look at that post for an example - (bepatient) - Jan. 13, 2004, 11:37:40 AM EST

On item 7, congratulations vs validation - (ben_tilly) - (7) - Jan. 13, 2004, 11:49:51 AM EST

Much better, thanks! - (Nightowl) - (6) - Jan. 13, 2004, 11:53:15 AM EST

Don't be so "midwest nice" - (jbrabeck) - (5) - Jan. 13, 2004, 01:20:23 PM EST

One more thing to decide -- the issue of praying - (Nightowl) - (4) - Jan. 13, 2004, 10:39:17 PM EST

Know who you are talking to before offering prayers - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Jan. 14, 2004, 12:20:05 AM EST

Very good theoretical solution - (Nightowl) - (2) - Jan. 14, 2004, 01:01:37 AM EST

Here's what I'll do about the prayer issue - (Nightowl) - (1) - Jan. 14, 2004, 02:20:16 AM EST

And finally, closing this thread. - (Nightowl) - Jan. 14, 2004, 02:24:32 AM EST

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