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Post #130,794

12/15/03 9:06:05 AM

so you got off?

stick a spork in it.

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Post #130,799

12/15/03 10:11:16 AM

A close friend's Dad...

He wouldn't let his son sign anything without reading it himself - and he laughed at the waiver and explained things to us. Took a long boring while, IIRC.

He said unequivocably that waivers of rights are not worth the paper they were printed on - that rights cannot be waived.

So far as things like privacy goes, of course, there is no 'right' in the first place. Apparently, this got started a long time ago, when people tried to enforce contracts restricting the right to vote.

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Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

home ownership versus The First Amendment - (lincoln) - (49) - Dec. 14, 2003, 05:36:52 PM EST

Welcome to the new US - (JayMehaffey) - (9) - Dec. 14, 2003, 06:26:42 PM EST

Can't you sue - (orion) - (8) - Dec. 14, 2003, 06:46:57 PM EST

I see that you don't choose to understand the Constitution - (ben_tilly) - (7) - Dec. 14, 2003, 10:12:12 PM EST

Well, any law used to enforce such a contract - (Arkadiy) - (6) - Dec. 14, 2003, 09:17:17 PM EST

That is what I thought - (orion) - Dec. 14, 2003, 09:39:38 PM EST

The argument fails - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Dec. 15, 2003, 10:12:22 AM EST

Beg to differ. - (jb4) - (1) - Dec. 15, 2003, 11:27:42 AM EST

Beg away - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 15, 2003, 11:50:50 AM EST

Much longer shot . - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Dec. 15, 2003, 03:58:35 PM EST

I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't work that way - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 15, 2003, 04:18:34 PM EST

You cannot sign away your rights in a contract. - (imric) - (7) - Dec. 14, 2003, 07:48:12 PM EST

Yes you can - (broomberg) - (5) - Dec. 14, 2003, 08:23:17 PM EST

Re: Yes you can - (deSitter) - Dec. 14, 2003, 08:30:27 PM EST

Sadly - (orion) - Dec. 14, 2003, 09:41:53 PM EST

A judge told me this. - (imric) - (2) - Dec. 15, 2003, 08:46:34 AM EST

so you got off? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 15, 2003, 09:06:05 AM EST

A close friend's Dad... - (imric) - Dec. 15, 2003, 10:11:16 AM EST

Sure you can. - (admin) - Dec. 14, 2003, 09:02:54 PM EST

Not a problem. - (Andrew Grygus) - (24) - Dec. 15, 2003, 10:24:30 AM EST

how many new homes are not in a planned community? -NT - (SpiceWare) - (23) - Dec. 15, 2003, 12:16:39 PM EST

If one of those sterile controlled environments . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (22) - Dec. 15, 2003, 01:04:04 PM EST

If by "living environment above their means" you mean... - (inthane-chan) - Dec. 15, 2003, 01:42:27 PM EST

I see IWETHEY continues to maintain - (cwbrenn) - (19) - Dec. 15, 2003, 03:27:53 PM EST

Much better sweeping catchall statements to worry about - (drewk) - (8) - Dec. 15, 2003, 03:59:02 PM EST

Been lurking for a few weeks.. - (cwbrenn) - (7) - Dec. 15, 2003, 04:03:14 PM EST

Hi! -NT - (bepatient) - Dec. 15, 2003, 04:07:15 PM EST

At least lurk... - (folkert) - Dec. 15, 2003, 04:07:39 PM EST

good to see you! -NT - (Steve Lowe) - Dec. 15, 2003, 04:23:51 PM EST

Hope all is well in Upstate NY with 2 "good" snows and all. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Dec. 15, 2003, 05:44:48 PM EST

Hey! Nice to hear from you, Chris! -NT - (jb4) - Dec. 15, 2003, 06:34:44 PM EST

Has ND support been offshored? - (deSitter) - (1) - Dec. 15, 2003, 06:47:58 PM EST

it's bloody cold - (cwbrenn) - Dec. 16, 2003, 01:42:53 AM EST

You mean then____Ho Ho Ho! - (Ashton) - Dec. 15, 2003, 04:06:02 PM EST

Read again. - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - Dec. 15, 2003, 07:46:46 PM EST

But Andrew, - (cwbrenn) - (6) - Dec. 16, 2003, 01:39:03 AM EST

So then . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Dec. 16, 2003, 07:31:30 AM EST

Who? - (cwbrenn) - (4) - Dec. 16, 2003, 10:23:15 AM EST

Whooo... indeed. ( was Re: Who?) (new thread) - (Nightowl) - Dec. 16, 2003, 10:29:59 AM EST

Totally opposite here - (drewk) - Dec. 16, 2003, 11:49:45 AM EST

personal punch - (rcareaga) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2003, 02:19:49 PM EST

Ah.. the eternal quadrangle - - (Ashton) - Dec. 17, 2003, 04:31:41 PM EST

glad to see you - (boxley) - Dec. 15, 2003, 09:03:01 PM EST

"around here" - (SpiceWare) - Dec. 16, 2003, 12:18:05 PM EST

My response to attempt to enforce would be - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 15, 2003, 10:29:10 AM EST

Just line it out. - (jb4) - (2) - Dec. 15, 2003, 11:18:15 AM EST

KB Homes is a national company - (lincoln) - (1) - Dec. 15, 2003, 03:06:03 PM EST

If they want to play that way, the ntwo can play - (jb4) - Dec. 15, 2003, 05:18:42 PM EST

HOA's as the Anti Life League - (dlevitt) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2003, 11:15:31 AM EST

Homeowners Association - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 16, 2003, 12:43:25 PM EST

Is there an LRPDism competition going on for some reason?
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