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New You cannot sign away your rights in a contract.
If you choose to honor such a clause in a contract, it's your own damned fault.

Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Yes you can
We sign away rights all the time.
We accept a job based on drugs tests which invade our privacy.
We trade off a promise to "behave" when entering a sporting event.
We promse not to sue when a puck crushed our skull.

While I don't KNOW if this is an enforcable contact, I'm pretty sure the cost of the lawyers will be greater than the home value.
New Re: Yes you can
The important question is not about if this is consitutional - it is, who would want to live like that? What good is a constitution written for people who don't care about it?

Even the idea of a "gated community" seems too much for me.
-drl
New Sadly
you are given two choices in a job, sign the unfair contract or lose your job.

You should have seen the contract that lawyers had us sign. I could not understand 75% of it.



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New A judge told me this.
Regarding a waiver for participating in sporting events.

Waiving rights isn't legally enforcable.

Not that people don't sign waivers all the time, and then abide by them.

You don't have to, however.

Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New so you got off?
stick a spork in it.

questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New A close friend's Dad...
He wouldn't let his son sign anything without reading it himself - and he laughed at the waiver and explained things to us. Took a long boring while, IIRC.

He said unequivocably that waivers of rights are not worth the paper they were printed on - that rights cannot be waived.

So far as things like privacy goes, of course, there is no 'right' in the first place. Apparently, this got started a long time ago, when people tried to enforce contracts restricting the right to vote.


Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Sure you can.
Join the Army. It's easy.
Regards,

-scott anderson

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         Welcome to the new US - (JayMehaffey) - (9)
             Can't you sue - (orion) - (8)
                 I see that you don't choose to understand the Constitution - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                     Well, any law used to enforce such a contract - (Arkadiy) - (6)
                         That is what I thought - (orion)
                         The argument fails - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                             Beg to differ. - (jb4) - (1)
                                 Beg away - (ben_tilly)
                             Much longer shot . - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                 I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't work that way - (ben_tilly)
         You cannot sign away your rights in a contract. - (imric) - (7)
             Yes you can - (broomberg) - (5)
                 Re: Yes you can - (deSitter)
                 Sadly - (orion)
                 A judge told me this. - (imric) - (2)
                     so you got off? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                         A close friend's Dad... - (imric)
             Sure you can. - (admin)
         Not a problem. - (Andrew Grygus) - (24)
             how many new homes are not in a planned community? -NT - (SpiceWare) - (23)
                 If one of those sterile controlled environments . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (22)
                     If by "living environment above their means" you mean... - (inthane-chan)
                     I see IWETHEY continues to maintain - (cwbrenn) - (19)
                         Much better sweeping catchall statements to worry about - (drewk) - (8)
                             Been lurking for a few weeks.. - (cwbrenn) - (7)
                                 Hi! -NT - (bepatient)
                                 At least lurk... - (folkert)
                                 good to see you! -NT - (Steve Lowe)
                                 Hope all is well in Upstate NY with 2 "good" snows and all. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                                 Hey! Nice to hear from you, Chris! -NT - (jb4)
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                             But Andrew, - (cwbrenn) - (6)
                                 So then . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                                     Who? - (cwbrenn) - (4)
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         My response to attempt to enforce would be - (tuberculosis)
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