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New Freedom my ass.
The Left has never been about freedom. "Freedom" is just a word they use.
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Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
New Am reminded of Mark Twain.
I imagine the Left looked pretty insignificant to the Germans in in late 1930's as well.

But if you're only talking about the Americans that "matter", you know, the 40% or so who still vote for one of the two same parties, then I guess that left doesn't matter anymore.

To the other 60% of the populace, it's still very much alive.

GODWIN (before anyone else can do it),
Mikem
New Sorry, no Godwin
Intentional triggering doesn't end the thread.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
New Wrong reasoning....
Cause he didn't accuse anyone of being LIKE the nazis.

See, your reply, it was insane, just like Hitler.

(That's a Godwin). :)

Addison
New Depends on your definition.
I was using [link|http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/Godwin's-Law.html|this] one.

"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful.

Yeah, it can be read both ways...
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
New WAY OT: Addison
I have been grounded because of weather for the past week. Am going on my first solo X-C ASAP. Maybe Thursday, any tips?
New Check the Water Cooler for response.
New I wonder
Is it possible for you to define what you consider to be "the left". Aside from insults that is. I think we may not agree as to who should be included.
For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution;
and it is always wrong
H. L. Mencken, Mencken's Metalaw
New I was gunna *say*...
...I thought the only elements of US politics was the Right, and the Further Right.


Peter
Shill For Hire
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
New Just think of 'moderate' as now named: 'pinko commie librul'
That is: many of these folk haven't changed their rhetoric from McCarthy's time - which is what they yearn to see reinstated. (O'course the more vociferous never had to *live* through McCarthyism; they were just brought up by grandmothers like mine.. and froze there, after they memorized the labels)

HTH - (Murican glossary of terms badly needed)


Oh: and also a new party to counter the present One - with Two Right Wings\ufffd who periodically have huge tent meetings and try to out-tough each other re eating the poor.
(The only real *sin* in Murica is: bein poor - but you knew that)
     Does the Left matter anymore? - (marlowe) - (26)
         You're only looking at this one issue. - (addison) - (1)
             And then the Left will find a new way to discredit itself. - (marlowe)
         Confusing patriotism with politics - (Silverlock) - (10)
             Freedom my ass. - (marlowe) - (9)
                 Am reminded of Mark Twain. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                     Sorry, no Godwin - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                         Wrong reasoning.... - (addison) - (3)
                             Depends on your definition. - (inthane-chan)
                             WAY OT: Addison - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                 Check the Water Cooler for response. -NT - (addison)
                 I wonder - (Silverlock) - (2)
                     I was gunna *say*... - (pwhysall) - (1)
                         Just think of 'moderate' as now named: 'pinko commie librul' - (Ashton)
         Does the left as in Sharpton, or the left as in - (boxley) - (4)
             Thank you, Bill - (Ashton) - (3)
                 Heh. - (Ric Locke) - (2)
                     Seen it and the amount could not be cleaned with a pitchfork - (boxley)
                     Re: Heh. Heh\ufffd - (Ashton)
         Irrelevancy illustrated: the peace rallies - (marlowe) - (3)
             Nah: just the same ol same ol problem: idiot slogans - (Ashton)
             Slogans are for the ignorant masses. - (boxley) - (1)
                 Damn Box: that rates an A for Virtuosity! (kan't spel here) -NT - (Ashton)
         Sontag tries to clear it all up - (marlowe) - (1)
             If you can't see that, then... I dunno what to say. - (CRConrad)
         totally confused here Marlowe who is an avowed - (boxley) - (1)
             Laudable idea but.. - (Ashton)

I'm gonna break him like a wedding vow on the Jerry Springer Show.
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