This is starting to look like a Hitler repeat?

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Post #10,307

9/23/01 10:37:11 PM

This is starting to look like a Hitler repeat?

Where some hate-filled person declares death to other groups of people.

Hitler feed off of the poverty of the people he brain-washed.

The similarites are errie and morbid.

P.S. Thanks for mentioning that bin Laden already "rules" Afghanistan.
His victory over the Russian has emboldened him significantly when fighting super-powers and poor countries alike.

Post #10,654

9/27/01 3:32:17 AM

Uh, that's not how it was, is it?

Brett Jayess writes:

...bin Laden already "rules" Afghanistan. His victory over the Russian has emboldened him significantly...

Osama bin Laden didn't beat the Russians.

I don't think even the Taliban did, before he came to them.

What the Taliban have won is the *civil* war in Afghanistan, that got going *after* the Afghanis had kicked out the Russians -- once the common enemy was no longer there to unite them, the widely disparate factions inevitably turned on each other.

My own guess would be, the Taliban probably won this too pretty much without bin Laden's help -- sure, he may have contributed money for guns, but I've seen no reports that he's much of a guerilla leader; just a terrorist leader and agitator pandering to the more or less illiterate (and the difference is rather large, I think).

Who beat the Russians, if you want to attach that feat to a single name (which of course isn't really possible), was probably more than anyone else -- and, deeply ironically -- Ahmed Shah Massoud, the leader of the "Northern Alliance" that got bumped off by assassins -- apparently working for bin Laden -- just days before the attack in the US.

At least Massoud's was the name you heard most of on the news, when Afghanistan was mentioned (and the fight against the Soviets was still going on), for most (at least the second half) of the eighties -- long before anyone had heard of this bin Laden character.

Right?

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"Gironimo"? - (tablizer) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2001, 04:13:02 PM EDT

Some say he left at least 4 days ago... - (Another Scott) - Sept. 23, 2001, 04:35:07 PM EDT

New O'Reilly book? Lemming on the cover?..............Sorry -NT - (Another Scott) - (8) - Sept. 22, 2001, 10:19:33 AM EDT

How does the destruction of Buddhist shrines by the Taliban - (brettj) - (7) - Sept. 22, 2001, 03:51:26 PM EDT

It's complicated. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2001, 11:08:54 PM EDT

I thought that was simple... - (Simon_Jester) - (5) - Sept. 23, 2001, 09:57:50 AM EDT

Let's take this a bit farther. - (brettj) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2001, 11:14:42 AM EDT

Not sure what you mean... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2001, 05:14:16 PM EDT

The Afghan tribes didn't destroy the idols until the Taliban - (brettj) - Sept. 23, 2001, 05:57:07 PM EDT

Real tolerant of other religions? - (orion) - (1) - Oct. 24, 2001, 04:11:22 PM EDT

Do you mean like.. - (Ashton) - Oct. 24, 2001, 04:52:07 PM EDT

Reasons for terrorism - (Ric Locke) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2001, 09:49:53 PM EDT

But, wait! There is Sadam, the Saladin, 1990 model. - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 22, 2001, 10:23:33 PM EDT

Re: Reasons for terrorism - (gtall) - Sept. 23, 2001, 09:09:15 AM EDT

Thanks. This answer's part of my question below. - (brettj) - Sept. 23, 2001, 01:00:57 PM EDT

Re: Reasons for terrorism - a pretty good QAD summary - (dmarker2) - Sept. 24, 2001, 04:05:19 AM EDT

Re: Reasons for terrorism - a pretty good QAD summary - (dmarker2) - Sept. 24, 2001, 04:31:39 AM EDT

Re: Reasons for terrorism - (bluke) - Sept. 24, 2001, 07:24:44 AM EDT

The pieces to the puzzle are falling into place. - (brettj) - (16) - Sept. 23, 2001, 10:07:01 AM EDT

How do the Jewish people fit into the picture? - (brettj) - (15) - Sept. 23, 2001, 11:11:15 AM EDT

Osama bin Laden quotes. - (a6l6e6x) - (14) - Sept. 23, 2001, 02:41:30 PM EDT

Thanks. Here is a LA Times link. - (brettj) - (3) - Sept. 23, 2001, 03:32:27 PM EDT

Re: And therein lies the biggest dilemma - (dmarker2) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2001, 09:47:02 PM EDT

This is starting to look like a Hitler repeat? - (brettj) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2001, 10:37:11 PM EDT

Uh, that's not how it was, is it? - (CRConrad) - Sept. 27, 2001, 03:32:17 AM EDT

Re: Osama bin Laden quotes - the US shame ??? - (dmarker2) - (9) - Sept. 24, 2001, 03:30:11 AM EDT

Problem not confined to Islam: organized religion. - (Ashton) - (7) - Sept. 24, 2001, 03:55:19 PM EDT

Ashton, don't be afraid to include the Zionists... - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Sept. 24, 2001, 04:17:35 PM EDT

But not someone's else wives and children - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2001, 04:55:28 PM EDT

Re: But not someone's else wives and children - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 26, 2001, 04:02:08 AM EDT

So, your position is that... - (ChrisR) - (3) - Sept. 24, 2001, 05:22:38 PM EDT

Only if it becomes profitable in the US environment - (mhuber) - (2) - Sept. 24, 2001, 05:31:23 PM EDT

Speech != action... - (ChrisR) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2001, 05:56:40 PM EDT

The comparison is about 'mindset' only, not probability - (Ashton) - Sept. 24, 2001, 06:44:43 PM EDT

Other Osama ignoring - (wharris2) - Sept. 26, 2001, 08:45:27 AM EDT

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