Post #92,624
3/28/03 6:55:03 PM
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Haven't you been reading?
If chemical weapons are not used, the only reason will be the fact that our military did its job. Bzzzzzttttt!!!!!! THAT is where PREDICTION comes into play. You can claim ANYTHING after the fact. Saddam has used chemical weapons in the past, and did not care about public opinion then. That is correct. Saddam is a sadistic pervert who ENJOYS the idea of gassing thousands of American troops. So, now you claim to be psychic? And the inspectors who left Iraq in 1998 said that chemical weapons production could be back up within 8 months. But no one has yet found that production to have been put into action. You miss the most obvious solution: Saddam does not have nuke/chem/bio weapons. Which is why I can predict this war and YOU cannot. /me takes a bow.
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Post #92,646
3/28/03 9:11:06 PM
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Re: Haven't you been reading?
Finally, I have you exactly where I want you.
I have cornered you into taking the position that Saddam does not have chem/bio weapons.
Now you have chosen your path, instead of vacillating between he doesn't have them/he wouldn't use them.
Also, what's up with claiming PROOF since the second day of the war? You think Joe 19-y/o has time to poking around suspicious buildings and sealed hatches?
Since you've chosen your path, you have nowhere to hide. And it's pretty likely that Saddam does indeed have WMD.
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Post #92,647
3/28/03 9:19:28 PM
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What's this, then?
And it's pretty likely that Saddam does indeed have WMD.
Would this be the same Saddam whom you've been assuring us for days was killed on that first night?
Doug, I hope you nailed down that bet.
cordially,
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
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Post #92,661
3/28/03 10:10:57 PM
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Re: What's this, then?
Good point, you guys must be getting through to me.
I say again, anyone heard from ol' Saddam recently?
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Post #92,668
3/28/03 10:23:16 PM
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I think he killed one of his Look-a-likes
like the Dubya Dummies, Saddam has his own look-a-likes too. :)
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Post #92,658
3/28/03 10:07:51 PM
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And that's the BEST shot you have?
Since you've chosen your path, you have nowhere to hide. And it's pretty likely that Saddam does indeed have WMD. And you STILL can't make a prediction. The BEST you can do is say that it is "pretty likely" that you're right. I don't think there's any one here who wouldn't say that even if Saddam does NOT use them, they will be "found" after the war. And the BEST you can do is that it is "pretty likely" that he has them. Nothing like hedging your bets, eh?
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Post #92,662
3/28/03 10:14:09 PM
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Re: And that's the BEST shot you have?
YEAH.
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps I am not self-delusional, and I do not pretend to know exactly what the future holds?
In your case, it does not matter. Whatever the outcome, that layer separating you from the real world will help you believe you were right anyway.
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Post #92,667
3/28/03 10:20:46 PM
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We are invading Iraq because it is "pretty likely"?
If the BEST you have it is "pretty likely" that Saddam has "WMD's", then WHY are we invading Iraq? Did it ever occur to you that perhaps I am not self-delusional, and I do not pretend to know exactly what the future holds? And that is why..... The Only Proof Is Prediction! "Self-delusional" is disproven when I demonstrate an ability that you cannot. You don't like that because it conflicts with your world-view. So, when a demonstratable fact conflicts with your world-view..... That fact is WRONG! :D The only proof is prediction.
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Post #92,674
3/28/03 10:30:48 PM
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Re: We are invading Iraq because it is "pretty likely"?
By "pretty likely" I mean that the military and intelligence agencies are awfully convinced he has them. By "pretty likely" I submit the most authoritative comment that I as a civilian am qualified to make. I believe that Saddam would make those weapons if he could (and he could). I also believe that Saddam would not destroy his most potent weapons in order to look nice to the international community.
I challenge you to provide demonstratable proof, drawn from your considerable experience in military intelligence and chemical weapons in the middle east, that there are no WMD in Iraq, and none will be found.
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Post #92,691
3/28/03 10:49:04 PM
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And ANOTHER slamdunk!
By "pretty likely" I mean that the military and intelligence agencies are awfully convinced he has them. Actually, our intelligence agencies have recently complained because our current regime was demanding that said agencies provide "proof" that Saddam had them. When no "proof" was to be had. So, our current regime had to resort to things like the claim that Iraq was trying to buy nuclear material from Niger. A claim that has since been proven to be completely false. :D By "pretty likely" I submit the most authoritative comment that I as a civilian am qualified to make. "Civilian" has nothing to do with this. Blix is a civilian. I believe that Saddam would make those weapons if he could (and he could). So, Saddam HAS those weapons (would if he could and he could). Basic English may be a bit beyond you. I also believe that Saddam would not destroy his most potent weapons in order to look nice to the international community. Believe whatever you will. I know other kids that believe in Santa Claus. I challenge you to provide demonstratable proof, drawn from your considerable experience in military intelligence and chemical weapons in the middle east, that there are no WMD in Iraq, and none will be found. I guess you FAILED basic logic. :D The only proof is prediction. As I have stated. You cannot "prove" a negative.
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Post #92,679
3/28/03 10:37:07 PM
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yup sure is
So, when a demonstratable fact conflicts with your world-view.....
That fact is WRONG! that is why were going to have a brandiochian stand off. For my prediction to fail you have to admit the error of yours. Interesting conumdrum :-) thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
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Post #92,686
3/28/03 10:42:38 PM
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Here are free clues.
that is why were going to have a brandiochian stand off. For my prediction to fail you have to admit the error of yours. Interesting conumdrum :-) #1. Try reading the entire thread. #2. I don't care about whatever your fantasies are. #3. I made my prediction before any of this started and it is STILL proven correct.
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Post #92,688
3/28/03 10:43:39 PM
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yup gonna be a toughie all right :-)
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Post #92,689
3/28/03 10:43:47 PM
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No Proof yet... just your stupid "ASS"umptions! Loser!
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Post #92,693
3/28/03 10:50:28 PM
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No solid proof either way
that Saddam has or has not have any WOMD.
All we have is speculation, US Military Intelligence suggests that he does have them, but is not using them currently.
Brand's comment about planting them, is not proved either, he is just guessing that the US troops will plant them. Saddam will claim this if they are found, even if he hid them and they found them. There is proof that he purchased nerve gas, mustard gas, etc in the past, and the destruction of those agents have not been accounted for yet. They could be on the moon (unlikely) for all we know! :)
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Post #92,701
3/28/03 11:06:24 PM
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That's because YOU don't understand what a prediction is.
No solid proof either way
that Saddam has or has not have any WOMD. No one can prove that Saddam does not have nuke/chem/bio weapons. Even if he never uses them against US troops. Maybe the elves are moving them when no one is looking. The only thing you CAN prove is that he has them and the easiest way to prove this is when HE uses them. Brand's comment about planting them, is not proved either, he is just guessing that the US troops will plant them. If I told you, today, what the next winning lottery number would be. And I told you that I was predicting it. And I was right. That would still be just a "guess" to you, wouldn't it? When the facts don't match your world-view, then those facts are wrong. The winning lottery number. Over a week in advance. As a public prediction. You still don't get it, do you? Do you have any idea how many individual, distinct events had to happen so my prediction would be accurate? If one were to listen to you and Marlowe... #1. An advance strike kills Saddam (how did I know there'd be an advance strike?) #2. Saddam had, previously, ordered all the chemicals removed from the warheads (how did I know that the warheads would be empty?) #3. The initial strikes take out the chemical weapons without causing any chemical hazards (how did I know that the rounds would be safe but that the weapons would be vulnerable?) And so on. If one were to listen to you and Marlowe, I'd have to have guessed right OVER and OVER and OVER. Any single error and my prediction would have been proven wrong.
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Post #92,708
3/28/03 11:18:23 PM
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yup ed zachery my prediction is coming true as we post
for example you goaded me into a prediction. I made one. You are working very hard to make it come true. In case you forgot, here it is. [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=91631|http://z.iwethey.org...w?contentid=91631] In case you havnt noticed his defence will be no matter what is found it wasnt acceptable proof to him. I made that knowing you will prove it out for me. You are already intimating that anything found after the war will not be accepted as proof so my prediction WILL come true, yours MIGHT. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
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Post #92,710
3/28/03 11:21:51 PM
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Nice.
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Post #92,716
3/28/03 11:33:33 PM
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Incorrect (as usual), Saddam can launch a chem attack.
That would be "proof" that I couldn't deny. So, as long as my prediction is 100% accurate, you can say that I won't accept any "proof" that counters it. Once again, Saddam will NOT use any nuke/chem/bio weapons. The reason for this is because he does NOT have them. So, to counter my prediction, all that has to happen is for Saddam to USE them. And you find this concept too difficult to comprehend? You are already intimating that anything found after the war will not be accepted as proof so my prediction WILL come true, yours MIGHT. Incorrect. If my prediction does NOT come true, then that means that Saddam will have used nuke/chem/bio weapons. As such was the "proof" needed to disprove my prediction, your prediction would, likewise, be disproven. So, if my prediction is correct, so is your's. -and- If my prediction is proven false, so is your's. In other words, your "prediction" is a derivative of my prediction. Original thought isn't big in your family, is it?
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Post #92,731
3/29/03 12:14:16 AM
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like I predicted brandiochan stand off thanx for affirming
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Post #92,738
3/29/03 12:55:52 AM
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A prediction is just guessing
prove me wrong by gussing the winning Powerball Lottery numbers for next week. We shall read the numbers and see if you are correct, Mr. Nostrodamus. Only then will I accept that you can predict the future.
"Bill gates cannot guarantee Windows, so how are you going to guarantee my safety?"
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Post #92,746
3/29/03 3:38:18 AM
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Tell that one to the Rapturin-out groupies..
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Post #92,818
3/29/03 12:49:02 PM
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Amen to that, brother!
Alex
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
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Post #92,814
3/29/03 12:24:01 PM
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Your sense of self-importance is vastly over rated.
So, a prediction is a "guess".
Believe whatever you want to.
One of us can predict how this war will unfold.
One of us cannot even "guess" at it but merely offer excuses on why things happen.
I have done what you cannot do and you still refuse to accept the facts.
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Post #92,832
3/29/03 1:32:17 PM
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You should certainly know.
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Post #92,877
3/29/03 4:46:44 PM
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Do what now? Come again, do what?
We cannot predict how the war will unfold, only guess. Your best guess is as good as mine.
What excuses? Provide some examples. Maybe I can figure out what you are yammering about.
What did you do that I could not do?
"Bill gates cannot guarantee Windows, so how are you going to guarantee my safety?"
-John Crichton to the Emperor of the Scarrans on [link|http://www.farscape.com|FarScape]
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Post #93,001
3/30/03 2:28:32 AM
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You can't tell the difference between a rocket and a "WMD".
We cannot predict how the war will unfold, only guess. Your best guess is as good as mine. In your dreams, maybe. Here, let me [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=92922|link] you to your own stupidity. I am still learning about this conflict, and I am trying to learn the facts and keep the fluff out of it. But your guess is as good as mine? hahahahhahahahahahaha Maybe to YOU it is. Meanwhile, I can predict (with 100% accuracy) how this war will unfold. You cannot. But your guess is as good as mine. hahahahahahahahahaha Go ahead. "Guess" when Saddam will use nuke/chem/bio weapons. "Guess" what the Iraqi's next battlefield tactic will be. ahahahhahahahahahahahaha I am a GOD!
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