SMERSH in Soviet Union during WW2

Post #92,276 by Arkadiy 3/27/03 7:02:05 PM Reply	SMERSH in Soviet Union during WW2 Machine gun positions in the rear. Fear of guaranteed death now for you and your family vs. possible death on the battlefield later. Yes, it can be done. Has been done. (Note: I could not find on the Web any references to that particular role of SMERSH. But the agency itself is well known). -- It made Ketchup! Sweet Ketchup! Put it on a hot dog, put it on a burger, Put it on your sister and she'll holler blody murder! Sweet Ketchup. --Tom Paxton.
Post #92,277 by inthane-chan 3/27/03 7:07:02 PM Reply	Man, SMERSH was a real agency? Wow. Always thought it was something Ian Fleming made up... But yeah, see "Enemy at the Gates" (somewhat fictional retelling of the siege of Stalingrad) for an example of the above. God does not play dice with the universe: He plays an ineffable game of His own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players [i.e. everybody], to being involved in an obscure and complex variant of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time.
Post #92,314 by Simon_Jester 3/27/03 9:17:38 PM Reply	Ian did that a lot in his books as he was an intellegence officer - he couldn't write about actual stuff in the offices in Britain (M was actually C) - but he could write about inside information of other agencies (adding an extra element for those in the know). The NSA says that SMERSH existed - An interesting Naval GRU message, No. 682, 13 April 1942, Stockholm to Moscow, describes a German peace initiative to the banker Jakob Wallenberg, uncle of Raoul Wallenberg, the Swedish diplomat and humanitarian. No translation in the VENONA material, however, is known to concern the case of Raoul Wallenberg, who was arrested by SMERSH (Military Counter- intelligence) in Budapest in 1945 and was reportedly murdered by the KGB in Moscow. Examples of other Stockholm messages: [link\|http://www.nsa.gov/docs/venona/monographs/monograph-5.html\| NSA ]
Post #92,310 by boxley 3/27/03 9:05:35 PM Reply	that was the forerunner of the 5th directorate KGB correct? will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] Since corporations are the equivelent of human but they have no "concience" they are by definition sociopaths

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