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Post #65,198
by bepatient
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11/26/02 3:45:33 PM
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New Valid claim
And that person is entitled to that continuing care and that lawsuit would not be spurious. In other words...a good "reform" of the system would allow these claims to still be upheld. Reform is centered around non-economic damages. The damages you described are certainly economic damages.

But...it seems that you think that I'm only out to protect the big, key corporate interests.

Funny...I thought it might be nice to have a family doctor...instead of one appointed by the only people left that can afford to hire them...big corporations...so I'm finding your knee-jerk reaction to your "perception" of my position to be just on the other side of hysterical...let alone completely wrong.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
Post #65,254
by Ashton
11/26/02 8:14:19 PM
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New Yup - it's about Trust. There isn't any (much) left
I don't believe we (as a society) have ever meant to face the underlying conflicts.. Recall when 'nurse' and 'teacher' were 'callings'? You *expected* to deliver endless and meticulous attention - and to be paid peanuts. Because (mostly then) you were a woman. Etc.

Now 'we' have observed that Doctors are not gods; and not-only those, either. Have gotten off our knees - and are amidst the problem of distribution of largesse from the 'Left-eye cataracts-Only' surgeon, on down to the floor scrubber after the operation (I hear that in China the MDs clean up their own OR afterwards. Maybe sometimes humility is worth the price of a little inefficiency?)

Anyway.. no wonder there shall be no consensus on where and how to extricate ourselves from the omnipresent Greed-demon, usually at the seat of all turf-wars. Now if next.. Greed were to be re-recognized as a human affliction and not the Meaning of Life, why -


Ashton
what would a Dictator do to Fix Things?
(hmmm shall we see?)
Post #65,414
by jb4
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11/27/02 9:58:57 AM
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New Hysterical...?
...you ain't seen hysterical yet, buddy!!!

;-)

(BTW, have a happy Thanksgiving, BeeP!. Looking forwared to sparring with you again after the holidays...)
jb4
"They lead. They don't manage. The carrot always wins over the stick. Ask your horse. You can lead your horse to water, but you can't manage him to drink."
Richard Kerr, United Technologies Corporation, 1990
Post #65,453
by bepatient
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11/27/02 12:02:12 PM
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New Hee hee....
...sure I have...maybe not from you (yet)...but certainly I have.

Happy Turkey backatcha!

Like any good capitalist..I like mine cooked "golden" ;-)

Hoo hoo haw haw !

/me picks himself off the floor...clutching sides before splitting :-)
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
Post #65,454
by jb4
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11/27/02 12:18:38 PM
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New smartass....
jb4
"They lead. They don't manage. The carrot always wins over the stick. Ask your horse. You can lead your horse to water, but you can't manage him to drink."
Richard Kerr, United Technologies Corporation, 1990
Post #65,455
by bepatient
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11/27/02 12:20:49 PM
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New :-)
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
     Tort reform - (Silverlock) - (80) - Nov. 23, 2002, 05:28:54 AM EST
         thats tart reform not tort reform -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 23, 2002, 09:15:07 AM EST
         And if I... - (bepatient) - (75) - Nov. 23, 2002, 12:21:51 PM EST
             Ooooh! falling off chair - (wharris2) - Nov. 23, 2002, 07:59:53 PM EST
             Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much - (Ashton) - (52) - Nov. 23, 2002, 08:57:11 PM EST
                 sorry about you perception of Fords - (boxley) - Nov. 23, 2002, 09:08:00 PM EST
                 Methinks you missed the important one... - (bepatient) - (50) - Nov. 23, 2002, 10:28:42 PM EST
                     No problem if the commune's infirmary is used. :) - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 23, 2002, 10:51:51 PM EST
                     very simple solution - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 23, 2002, 11:54:50 PM EST
                         I LIKE it! - (jb4) - Nov. 25, 2002, 09:44:15 AM EST
                     Non seq.___ You mean: all and Everything ?? - (Ashton) - (46) - Nov. 24, 2002, 01:37:00 AM EST
                         I don't see any problem at all. - (Brandioch) - (45) - Nov. 24, 2002, 03:57:01 AM EST
                             But you don't have the BEST care in the world. - (tuberculosis) - (44) - Nov. 24, 2002, 07:41:36 AM EST
                                 If you have the money, the best treatment is in the US. - (Brandioch) - (36) - Nov. 24, 2002, 12:05:01 PM EST
                                     How?!?! WHO MAKES THE LAWS THAT ARE USED IN THE COURTS? - (tuberculosis) - (35) - Nov. 24, 2002, 12:44:31 PM EST
                                         Don't bother them with minor details... - (bepatient) - Nov. 24, 2002, 03:14:41 PM EST
                                         Whatever. - (Brandioch) - (33) - Nov. 24, 2002, 04:07:20 PM EST
                                             Best technology - wildly variable 'medicine'. - (Ashton) - (2) - Nov. 24, 2002, 07:57:28 PM EST
                                                 It's in our culture. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Nov. 24, 2002, 09:52:05 PM EST
                                                     It is in our culture even more than that - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 25, 2002, 07:09:54 AM EST
                                             Extreme case - (tuberculosis) - (29) - Nov. 25, 2002, 04:59:02 AM EST
                                                 Since you were unable to answer the question... - (Brandioch) - (28) - Nov. 25, 2002, 08:29:21 AM EST
                                                     Mexico -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 25, 2002, 10:05:29 AM EST
                                                         Nope - 97. -NT - (tuberculosis) - Nov. 25, 2002, 11:03:50 AM EST
                                                     Did you not look at the link in my first article? - (tuberculosis) - (25) - Nov. 25, 2002, 10:47:04 AM EST
                                                         I didn't say that. - (Brandioch) - (24) - Nov. 25, 2002, 07:14:51 PM EST
                                                             and he whines when I do that :0 -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 25, 2002, 08:11:32 PM EST
                                                             Afraid I'd have to quibble with 'best' in lots of contexts - (Ashton) - Nov. 25, 2002, 10:26:15 PM EST
                                                             BEST by what measurement? - (tuberculosis) - (21) - Nov. 26, 2002, 09:04:34 AM EST
                                                                 No source needed. - (Brandioch) - (20) - Nov. 26, 2002, 10:23:01 AM EST
                                                                     France. - (bepatient) - (19) - Nov. 26, 2002, 10:58:46 AM EST
                                                                         He wouldnt reply to Mexico he doesnt have any facts -NT - (boxley) - (18) - Nov. 26, 2002, 11:07:11 AM EST
                                                                             Pick pick pick :-) -NT - (bepatient) - Nov. 26, 2002, 11:12:59 AM EST
                                                                             One more time. - (Brandioch) - (16) - Nov. 26, 2002, 02:54:04 PM EST
                                                                                 Definitions and Metrics. - (Another Scott) - (9) - Nov. 26, 2002, 03:44:08 PM EST
                                                                                     No, I think you've phrased it correctly. - (Brandioch) - (8) - Nov. 26, 2002, 04:57:55 PM EST
                                                                                         Silly definition of BEST - (tuberculosis) - (7) - Nov. 27, 2002, 06:16:23 AM EST
                                                                                             No, that is the definition of "best". - (Brandioch) - (6) - Nov. 27, 2002, 11:52:46 AM EST
                                                                                                 Hardly. - (bepatient) - (5) - Nov. 27, 2002, 11:56:50 AM EST
                                                                                                     All parts of the elephant - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:30:42 PM EST
                                                                                                         Because my definition does not agree with your opinion.... - (Brandioch) - (3) - Nov. 27, 2002, 07:32:13 PM EST
                                                                                                             Lighten up - (Silverlock) - (2) - Nov. 27, 2002, 11:41:23 PM EST
                                                                                                                 never let a cheap rhetorical device hold you back :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 27, 2002, 11:55:42 PM EST
                                                                                                                     He never does ;-) -NT - (bepatient) - Nov. 28, 2002, 11:23:31 AM EST
                                                                                 yes -NT - (boxley) - (5) - Nov. 26, 2002, 07:15:03 PM EST
                                                                                     And Mexico's equivalent to the Mayo Clinics is.....? -NT - (Brandioch) - (4) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:08:22 AM EST
                                                                                         UNAM Mexico City where Americans go to do post grad tropical - (boxley) - (3) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:18:00 AM EST
                                                                                             Heh - once 'made rounds' there - (Ashton) - Nov. 27, 2002, 05:47:57 AM EST
                                                                                             It looks good. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Nov. 27, 2002, 07:38:28 PM EST
                                                                                                 Its your assertion, you support it. - (boxley) - Nov. 27, 2002, 08:30:01 PM EST
                                 Price of drugs outside the US - (bluke) - Nov. 25, 2002, 11:22:38 AM EST
                                 Sure does for those who can afford it - (bluke) - (5) - Nov. 25, 2002, 11:30:11 AM EST
                                     Exactly. - (Brandioch) - (4) - Nov. 25, 2002, 09:01:37 PM EST
                                         It's not an abstact quality, it's a commodity - (hnick) - (3) - Nov. 26, 2002, 07:57:19 AM EST
                                             Interesting. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Nov. 26, 2002, 10:42:25 AM EST
                                                 Ok: try 'theoretical' VS actual; potential VS performance - (Ashton) - (1) - Nov. 26, 2002, 07:40:30 PM EST
                                                     I agree. -NT - (Brandioch) - Nov. 26, 2002, 08:00:50 PM EST
             I don't get your snideness - (jb4) - (20) - Nov. 25, 2002, 09:39:48 AM EST
                 But they don't. - (bepatient) - (19) - Nov. 25, 2002, 05:50:25 PM EST
                     A sample web link. - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 25, 2002, 08:49:34 PM EST
                     Rather nicely covered on 60 Minutes, last night. Still...... - (Ashton) - (3) - Nov. 25, 2002, 11:00:36 PM EST
                         But if I were to interpret.... - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 26, 2002, 07:53:26 AM EST
                             New blood, and with real-life Experience, not just an MBA. -NT - (Ashton) - (1) - Nov. 26, 2002, 07:46:03 PM EST
                                 I thought those were the ball players ;-) -NT - (bepatient) - Nov. 26, 2002, 08:39:18 PM EST
                     Is abuse of tort that widespread? - (Silverlock) - (6) - Nov. 25, 2002, 11:18:25 PM EST
                         the issue I have on tort reform is class actions - (boxley) - (2) - Nov. 26, 2002, 12:56:19 AM EST
                             My proposal for a reform: - (mhuber) - (1) - Nov. 26, 2002, 01:53:42 AM EST
                                 Hey, I LIKE it! - (jb4) - Nov. 26, 2002, 01:08:36 PM EST
                         What you don't hear is worse... - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 26, 2002, 08:23:01 AM EST
                             Aren't they mostly between insurance companies? - (mhuber) - (1) - Nov. 26, 2002, 01:33:27 PM EST
                                 I'm not saying... - (bepatient) - Nov. 26, 2002, 03:20:19 PM EST
                     So how do you handle this? - (jb4) - (6) - Nov. 26, 2002, 01:03:35 PM EST
                         Valid claim - (bepatient) - (5) - Nov. 26, 2002, 03:45:33 PM EST
                             Yup - it's about Trust. There isn't any (much) left - (Ashton) - Nov. 26, 2002, 08:14:19 PM EST
                             Hysterical...? - (jb4) - (3) - Nov. 27, 2002, 09:58:57 AM EST
                                 Hee hee.... - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:02:12 PM EST
                                     smartass.... -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:18:38 PM EST
                                         :-) -NT - (bepatient) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:20:49 PM EST
         He more closely connects crime and punishment. - (static) - Nov. 23, 2002, 11:40:36 PM EST
         Tort system simply broken - (JayMehaffey) - Nov. 26, 2002, 06:09:11 PM EST
         Tort Reform Irony - don't talk about it..... - (Simon_Jester) - Dec. 11, 2002, 01:59:18 PM EST

But don't you come 'round here thinking you can add to the Holy Fortune Cookies.
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