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Post #64,813
by Brandioch
11/24/02 9:52:05 PM
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New It's in our culture.
We do a LOUSY job of maintaining wellness; it isn't even how US Drs. have thought of selves since the first.. though some new awareness is today slowly creeping into this dinosaur that is the AMA and its Bible, the PDR. We Love farm-chem because it's so instantly gratifying - at suppressing the symptoms of something (Else?) and we don't have to think or change any habits. Perfect! for Muricans.. no?
Everything we (as a nation) do is instant gratification and short-term thinking.

There's money in selling burgers.

There's money in selling cigarettes.

There's money in selling bypass surgery.

There's not much money to be made in selling a healthy life.

Cancer might not have been the best example above. I should have used a car wreck, instead.
Post #64,863
by ben_tilly
11/25/02 7:09:54 AM
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New It is in our culture even more than that
After you get beyond a fairly low per capita income, one of the biggest known factors on life expectancy is how little income disparity there is. The US, of course, has made a religion out of the value of allowing huge disparities to thrive...

Random link from Google on this.

[link|http://depts.washington.edu/eqhlth/|http://depts.washington.edu/eqhlth/]

Cheers,
Ben
"Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly."
- [link|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html|Walter Mead]
     Tort reform - (Silverlock) - (80) - Nov. 23, 2002, 05:28:54 AM EST
         thats tart reform not tort reform -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 23, 2002, 09:15:07 AM EST
         And if I... - (bepatient) - (75) - Nov. 23, 2002, 12:21:51 PM EST
             Ooooh! falling off chair - (wharris2) - Nov. 23, 2002, 07:59:53 PM EST
             Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much - (Ashton) - (52) - Nov. 23, 2002, 08:57:11 PM EST
                 sorry about you perception of Fords - (boxley) - Nov. 23, 2002, 09:08:00 PM EST
                 Methinks you missed the important one... - (bepatient) - (50) - Nov. 23, 2002, 10:28:42 PM EST
                     No problem if the commune's infirmary is used. :) - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 23, 2002, 10:51:51 PM EST
                     very simple solution - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 23, 2002, 11:54:50 PM EST
                         I LIKE it! - (jb4) - Nov. 25, 2002, 09:44:15 AM EST
                     Non seq.___ You mean: all and Everything ?? - (Ashton) - (46) - Nov. 24, 2002, 01:37:00 AM EST
                         I don't see any problem at all. - (Brandioch) - (45) - Nov. 24, 2002, 03:57:01 AM EST
                             But you don't have the BEST care in the world. - (tuberculosis) - (44) - Nov. 24, 2002, 07:41:36 AM EST
                                 If you have the money, the best treatment is in the US. - (Brandioch) - (36) - Nov. 24, 2002, 12:05:01 PM EST
                                     How?!?! WHO MAKES THE LAWS THAT ARE USED IN THE COURTS? - (tuberculosis) - (35) - Nov. 24, 2002, 12:44:31 PM EST
                                         Don't bother them with minor details... - (bepatient) - Nov. 24, 2002, 03:14:41 PM EST
                                         Whatever. - (Brandioch) - (33) - Nov. 24, 2002, 04:07:20 PM EST
                                             Best technology - wildly variable 'medicine'. - (Ashton) - (2) - Nov. 24, 2002, 07:57:28 PM EST
                                                 It's in our culture. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Nov. 24, 2002, 09:52:05 PM EST
                                                     It is in our culture even more than that - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 25, 2002, 07:09:54 AM EST
                                             Extreme case - (tuberculosis) - (29) - Nov. 25, 2002, 04:59:02 AM EST
                                                 Since you were unable to answer the question... - (Brandioch) - (28) - Nov. 25, 2002, 08:29:21 AM EST
                                                     Mexico -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 25, 2002, 10:05:29 AM EST
                                                         Nope - 97. -NT - (tuberculosis) - Nov. 25, 2002, 11:03:50 AM EST
                                                     Did you not look at the link in my first article? - (tuberculosis) - (25) - Nov. 25, 2002, 10:47:04 AM EST
                                                         I didn't say that. - (Brandioch) - (24) - Nov. 25, 2002, 07:14:51 PM EST
                                                             and he whines when I do that :0 -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 25, 2002, 08:11:32 PM EST
                                                             Afraid I'd have to quibble with 'best' in lots of contexts - (Ashton) - Nov. 25, 2002, 10:26:15 PM EST
                                                             BEST by what measurement? - (tuberculosis) - (21) - Nov. 26, 2002, 09:04:34 AM EST
                                                                 No source needed. - (Brandioch) - (20) - Nov. 26, 2002, 10:23:01 AM EST
                                                                     France. - (bepatient) - (19) - Nov. 26, 2002, 10:58:46 AM EST
                                                                         He wouldnt reply to Mexico he doesnt have any facts -NT - (boxley) - (18) - Nov. 26, 2002, 11:07:11 AM EST
                                                                             Pick pick pick :-) -NT - (bepatient) - Nov. 26, 2002, 11:12:59 AM EST
                                                                             One more time. - (Brandioch) - (16) - Nov. 26, 2002, 02:54:04 PM EST
                                                                                 Definitions and Metrics. - (Another Scott) - (9) - Nov. 26, 2002, 03:44:08 PM EST
                                                                                     No, I think you've phrased it correctly. - (Brandioch) - (8) - Nov. 26, 2002, 04:57:55 PM EST
                                                                                         Silly definition of BEST - (tuberculosis) - (7) - Nov. 27, 2002, 06:16:23 AM EST
                                                                                             No, that is the definition of "best". - (Brandioch) - (6) - Nov. 27, 2002, 11:52:46 AM EST
                                                                                                 Hardly. - (bepatient) - (5) - Nov. 27, 2002, 11:56:50 AM EST
                                                                                                     All parts of the elephant - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:30:42 PM EST
                                                                                                         Because my definition does not agree with your opinion.... - (Brandioch) - (3) - Nov. 27, 2002, 07:32:13 PM EST
                                                                                                             Lighten up - (Silverlock) - (2) - Nov. 27, 2002, 11:41:23 PM EST
                                                                                                                 never let a cheap rhetorical device hold you back :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 27, 2002, 11:55:42 PM EST
                                                                                                                     He never does ;-) -NT - (bepatient) - Nov. 28, 2002, 11:23:31 AM EST
                                                                                 yes -NT - (boxley) - (5) - Nov. 26, 2002, 07:15:03 PM EST
                                                                                     And Mexico's equivalent to the Mayo Clinics is.....? -NT - (Brandioch) - (4) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:08:22 AM EST
                                                                                         UNAM Mexico City where Americans go to do post grad tropical - (boxley) - (3) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:18:00 AM EST
                                                                                             Heh - once 'made rounds' there - (Ashton) - Nov. 27, 2002, 05:47:57 AM EST
                                                                                             It looks good. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Nov. 27, 2002, 07:38:28 PM EST
                                                                                                 Its your assertion, you support it. - (boxley) - Nov. 27, 2002, 08:30:01 PM EST
                                 Price of drugs outside the US - (bluke) - Nov. 25, 2002, 11:22:38 AM EST
                                 Sure does for those who can afford it - (bluke) - (5) - Nov. 25, 2002, 11:30:11 AM EST
                                     Exactly. - (Brandioch) - (4) - Nov. 25, 2002, 09:01:37 PM EST
                                         It's not an abstact quality, it's a commodity - (hnick) - (3) - Nov. 26, 2002, 07:57:19 AM EST
                                             Interesting. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Nov. 26, 2002, 10:42:25 AM EST
                                                 Ok: try 'theoretical' VS actual; potential VS performance - (Ashton) - (1) - Nov. 26, 2002, 07:40:30 PM EST
                                                     I agree. -NT - (Brandioch) - Nov. 26, 2002, 08:00:50 PM EST
             I don't get your snideness - (jb4) - (20) - Nov. 25, 2002, 09:39:48 AM EST
                 But they don't. - (bepatient) - (19) - Nov. 25, 2002, 05:50:25 PM EST
                     A sample web link. - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 25, 2002, 08:49:34 PM EST
                     Rather nicely covered on 60 Minutes, last night. Still...... - (Ashton) - (3) - Nov. 25, 2002, 11:00:36 PM EST
                         But if I were to interpret.... - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 26, 2002, 07:53:26 AM EST
                             New blood, and with real-life Experience, not just an MBA. -NT - (Ashton) - (1) - Nov. 26, 2002, 07:46:03 PM EST
                                 I thought those were the ball players ;-) -NT - (bepatient) - Nov. 26, 2002, 08:39:18 PM EST
                     Is abuse of tort that widespread? - (Silverlock) - (6) - Nov. 25, 2002, 11:18:25 PM EST
                         the issue I have on tort reform is class actions - (boxley) - (2) - Nov. 26, 2002, 12:56:19 AM EST
                             My proposal for a reform: - (mhuber) - (1) - Nov. 26, 2002, 01:53:42 AM EST
                                 Hey, I LIKE it! - (jb4) - Nov. 26, 2002, 01:08:36 PM EST
                         What you don't hear is worse... - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 26, 2002, 08:23:01 AM EST
                             Aren't they mostly between insurance companies? - (mhuber) - (1) - Nov. 26, 2002, 01:33:27 PM EST
                                 I'm not saying... - (bepatient) - Nov. 26, 2002, 03:20:19 PM EST
                     So how do you handle this? - (jb4) - (6) - Nov. 26, 2002, 01:03:35 PM EST
                         Valid claim - (bepatient) - (5) - Nov. 26, 2002, 03:45:33 PM EST
                             Yup - it's about Trust. There isn't any (much) left - (Ashton) - Nov. 26, 2002, 08:14:19 PM EST
                             Hysterical...? - (jb4) - (3) - Nov. 27, 2002, 09:58:57 AM EST
                                 Hee hee.... - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:02:12 PM EST
                                     smartass.... -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:18:38 PM EST
                                         :-) -NT - (bepatient) - Nov. 27, 2002, 12:20:49 PM EST
         He more closely connects crime and punishment. - (static) - Nov. 23, 2002, 11:40:36 PM EST
         Tort system simply broken - (JayMehaffey) - Nov. 26, 2002, 06:09:11 PM EST
         Tort Reform Irony - don't talk about it..... - (Simon_Jester) - Dec. 11, 2002, 01:59:18 PM EST

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