Awww, are you having trouble with your memory?

Post #59,111 by Brandioch 10/24/02 1:10:46 PM Reply	Awww, are you having trouble with your memory? Look, shit for brains, I know who I am and where I was. #1. I never said ANYTHING about who you were. #2. You might have been "there" (geographically) but not "there" at the border when it was a border. Nice little twist you tried, again. You have demonstrated nothing but your own ignorance in this and many threads. That's right. I make a statement and post photographic proof and I'm the one that is ignorant? This must be one of your new definitions of "ignorant". Like "wall". In your words "The fact that you thought there was a wall running all the way along the East/West German border means that you were not there (there being at the border)." Yes. And I still stand by them. Duh! The fact is, I was there and I knew there was a wall/barrier/fence/guarded area/whateverthefuckyouwishtoparseitas running down the entire length of the country because I was there and on the border as a Russian linguist. Ah, note how you start altering your statements once I provide photographic evidence that is counter to your claims. You alter your claim to include the evidence I presented. And you get upset at me for providing the photographic evidence that refuted your previous claim. This is what I am trying to tell you. Your logic is flawed. Yes, that is what you are trying to tell me. That is so you can hide from the fact that you were caught in a lie. wall == barrier -and- fence == barrier -therefore- wall == fence And you are trying to say that I am the one with the flawed logic? That works in math, but not in english. And I have to explain this to an adult? You surmise that I was not there because I do not agree with your circuitous parsing and twisting of English. No. I deduce that you were not at the border when there was a border there because you're claiming to have seen something that was not there. But it is my "circuitious parsing and twisting of English"? I seem to recall that it was YOU who is trying to claim that a wall is a fence. In the context of the original post, I never mentioned Berlin or the Berlin Wall (or Field Station Berlin, Checkpoint Charlie, the Brandenburg Gate, Kudamstrasse)... YOU DID. Bzzzzzttttt!!!!! Incorrect. I did NOT mention: #1. Field Station Berlin #2. the Brandenburg Gate #3. Kudamstrasse Is it even POSSIBLE for you to stick to the facts? Is this problem with the truth a psychological one for you? I said that the Russians were so paranoid of a reunified Germany that they build a wall through the entire country. You had nothing intelligent to rebut that premise with so you started parsing the definition of what a wall is. No. You asked if I had ever left Berlin because the FUCKING WALL (your words) ran through the entire country. Now, the wall in Berlin was a wall. There wasn't a wall through Germany. Anyone who would THINK there was a wall through Germany was NOT at the border. You are fucking wrong, you were then and even more so now and if you would be so kind to admit it and apologize, I will let this go. I'm so happy you feel that way. I'm sorry you're a liar. I'm sorry this problem is pathological with you. I'm sorry you feel that the only way you can make a point is through lies and semantic games. There, willing to let it drop now?
Post #59,131 by Mike 10/24/02 1:52:19 PM Reply	Better conclusion >>Anyone who would THINK there was a wall through Germany was NOT at the border. Better yet: Anyone who slips up and uses the word "wall" inadvertently.....will have their history rewritten on their behalf. I cite the prior posts as evidence. I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Post #59,150 by screamer 10/24/02 3:07:40 PM Reply	Thank you again... crackhead, for you have (unwittingly) given me a chance to tie this neatly together. I can now summarize the meta of this whole debate as "are we (the US/UN) justified in using force against Iraq?" With your help, I have come to the conclusion that appeasement of tyrants (be they minor tyrants with keyboards or major tyrants with armies and weapons of mass destruction) is not a good long term strategy, it just seems to embolden them. A non response is regarded as tacit approval. I was too busy working to respond to your tiring posting style and "left it alone"... A few weeks goes by and I rejoin to find that your hands have not remained "idle" nor have you had any gestalts... In other words, you haven't changed, in fact you've been very busy - much like I suspect that Saddam Hussein has been. You just keep repeating the same manta and doublespeak - much like governments do. For (goodandplenty, goodandplenty, goodandplenty) repetition is sometimes an effective brainwashing technique. When called out on it, you simply do Pavlovian more of same... I will give you high points for consistency at least. But, I digress... I conclude (brazenly - hardly a "random sample" or high population :-) ) that appeasement, as a strategy, is not effective. I think that it only emboldens the adversary. Sincere thanks for the insight and, unlike you, I could be wrong... and you really should start practicing using the following separator in your posts: ----oooooOOooooooo------ Just a few thoughts, Screamer take all your overgrown infants away somewhere and build them a home a little place of their own the fletcher memorial home for incurable tyrants and kings and they can appears to themselves every day on closed circut t.v. to make sure their still real it's the only connection they feel "ladies and gentlemen, please welcome reagan and heig mr. begin and friend mrs. thatcher and paisley mr. brezhnev and party the ghost of nixon and now adding colour a group of anonymous latin american meat packing glitterati" did they expect us to treat them with any respect they can polish their medals and sharpen their smails, and amuse themselves playing games for a while boom boom, bang bang, lie down your dead safe in the permanent gaze of a cold glass eye with their favourite toys they'll be good girls and boys in the fletcher memorial home for colonial wasters of life and limb is everyone in? are you having a nice time? now the final solution can be applied R. Waters - the fletcher memorial home
Post #59,170 by Brandioch 10/24/02 3:49:07 PM Reply	Claim whatever you want. The facts are, you have lied about a wall that wasn't there, you have lied about me bring up other areas in Germany, you have lied about me defending tyrants. But that does NOT make you a liar. Because you know what you are. And it is my problem if I want to stick to the facts.
Post #59,194 by Mike 10/24/02 4:33:07 PM 10/24/02 4:34:15 PM Reply	Deny, deny, deny [link\|http://www.ddr5.homestead.com/files/gm/gm.html\|Inner Germany Border Museum] [link\|http://www.geocities.com/Athens/3080/aug13.htm\|Wall at M\ufffddlenreuth] Extract: Our excursion today brought us to the former East-West German border to a little village called M\ufffddlenreuth which has left part of the wall standing as a museum. This village was divided in half by the inner-German wall, one very similar to that in Berlin. I tactfully suggest that this may be a good time drop the issue. -Mike I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. Edited by Mike Oct. 24, 2002, 04:34:15 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #59,229 by Brandioch 10/24/02 6:56:29 PM Reply	What are you denying?
Post #59,325 by Mike 10/25/02 12:26:29 AM Reply	????????????? Okay moron...gonna have ta start a new thread for this one :-) I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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