Residential building, after midnight.

Post #46,546 by Brandioch 7/23/02 4:13:57 PM Reply	Residential building, after midnight. And you say he's hiding behind children?
Post #46,548 by boxley 7/23/02 4:19:30 PM Reply	They should be using the SAS Model that the Brits used in NI snipers in the badlands, that way you setup a couple of days ahead of a likely spot on a rooftop etc then a .50 into the body that will go thru any armoured vest. Gaza presents more of a challenge but an infiltration with a hard extraction team waiting on hand for the sniper and his spotter should work while minimising civilian casualties. thanx, bill ."Once, in the wilds of Afghanistan, I had to subsist on food and water for several weeks." W.C. Fields
Post #46,606 by Ashton 7/23/02 6:45:58 PM Reply	Murican as apple pie IF... one recalls merely the epithets gooks, buck-toothed Japs, slopes, ginks, chinks, etc. ad nauseum. One Murican cannon-fodder GI 'boy' is worth: 50? 100? 1000? of such humanoid non-Murican detritus: in How Many conflicts to date? (could we say.. 100% \ufffd 0.12% ?) Obviously the Israelis have a similar stochastic-weighting to Our Own - justified (as Ours, every time) by "the exigencies of conflict with Someone Against >\| US" someone == anyone What was that one about 'the mote in another's eye / the beam in one's own?' Ashton ain't consistency a gasser !?
Post #46,609 by Brandioch 7/23/02 7:07:12 PM Reply	Yup. I can understand that mentality. OUR's is always worth more than THEIR's. But to go beyond that and claim that someone was hiding behind children when they fired a missle into the apartment building he LIVED in. Lived as in "home" as in "wife and kids" as in "other families living there". Again, when you kill innocents to achieve your goals, you are no different from the "terrorists" you claim to be fighting. Or, rather, suppose I phrase it this way. When was the LAST time we or our allies did NOT launch an attack against a target because children were there? Translation: When was the last time that children were an effective shield?
Post #46,663 by Ashton 7/24/02 4:08:08 AM Reply	"collateral damage" - this ugly and premeditated event is different from the snap judgments of a fire fight. I suppose it points out for the nth time the utter hypocrisy of that phrase - whoever employs it to dissemble. Was the target fair game? I'd agree that he was. But at what cost ??? Gawd we Love our euphemisms. I suppose the people in that building.. passed away. Now what would we / anyone have paid in collateral damage to have assassinated Hitler? Stalin? [obviously we didn't offer enough] Answering that might bring some perspective also to: Just how many lives (of various races, nationalities) is a US person worth? a US person in uniform? a US executive? nurse? pregnant woman wanting an abortion? Librul? Conservative (ordinary or the endangered.. 'compassionate' species) ? yada and yada. (Betcha Someone.. has a Boolean formula already worked out) Ashton
Post #46,673 by boxley 7/24/02 6:37:00 AM Reply	Nit "But to go beyond that and claim that someone was hiding behind children when they fired a missle into the apartment building he LIVED in." He LIVED in a different apartment and or house every night staying in heavily populated areas because he knew he was a target. Not excusing the act but lets try to keep honest about it. If he lived in the same place all the time, his morning newspaper would have ignited a long time ago. thanx, bill ."Once, in the wilds of Afghanistan, I had to subsist on food and water for several weeks." W.C. Fields
Post #46,692 by Brandioch 7/24/02 9:42:13 AM Reply	When did that ever stop us or our allies? Really. When have we ever not attacked someone because the civilian casualties would be too high?

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