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New Remote control anything means possibly controlled by the computers on their own
Of course those are remote controlled video game like environment for now. Which is the simple step to then be controlled just by the AI.

Read the papers? Are you crazy? The math involved is way beyond me. So now I have to find people with a trustable point of view. Which to me are the geeks who are paying attention and who can delve into it.

None of it really matters to me. It'll be 10 years or so until the culmination and the obvious singularity happens. And I'll be dead by then. But I think these moments are the turning point.

You're the one who seems to be frothing about me pointing it out.
Collapse Edited by crazy Nov. 25, 2023, 12:12:32 PM EST
Remote control anything means possibly controlled by the computers on their own
Of course those are remote controlled video game like environment for now. Which is the simple step to then be controlled just by the AI.

Read the papers? Are you crazy? The math involved is way beyond me. So now I have to find people with a trustable point of view. Which to me are the geeks who are paying attention and who can delve into it.

None of it really matters to me. It'll be 10 years or so until the culmination and the obvious singularity happens. And I'll be dead by then. But I think these moments are the turning point.
New You seem to have a rather idiosyncratic definition of "frothing".
New I tried to figure out how the board worked
Who appoints the directors? It seems the directors appoint the directors. Not quite sure still, but this is the best video that delved into that.


https://youtu.be/ZJIWTA4x24s?si=E8d7P3Qnr-vuUG2L

This is the best explainer of the corporate structure that I've come across so far.

You said the medium is the message. B*******. The medium was the message when we had three channels to choose from. Adding channel 12 for PBS. Then three more on UHF but those were reruns of the Munsters. It was incredibly limiting. Now the limiting factors what YouTube allows to be published. They blur out the bloody Russian bodies and the explosions for some channels. Other are allowed to show everything because they don't give a s*** about being monetized and are the pure propaganda channels.

But I definitely get multiple viewpoints with different levels of government/ propaganda versus YouTube commentators with incredible history and experience, so they can give me a validated justified supported viewpoint.

Many years ago I said that the most important thing the internet will ever give me is a decent viewpoint. I'd be willing to pay for certain people's viewpoint if they proved their ability. I can get that now. It's my job to figure out the b******* though. And who's got a conflict of interest.
New "You said the medium is the message. B*******." [-ullshit, I assume.]
Not "YouTube vs Fox" or "YouTube vs TV" or anything like that.

YouTube and Fox and TV vs text. On paper or screens or stone tablets or whatever.

I'm beginning to think moving pictures as such corrode the brain.
--

   Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything


Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
New I read that a very much YouTube vs TV
They're both video, they can look and feel the same if you want to. But what you can put on YouTube - and of course what you can find there - is worlds apart from what will get past even the most jaded "traditional" producer.

We have a generation coming up for whom YouTube *is* TV. They don't draw the same lines we do, so they don't understand how different they are.

Just look at the recent Fox case. Can you imagine similar against YouTube? "We didn't say it, we're just the phone line."

The old system has massive flaws, but I can't believe that keeping most of the old structures while discarding all accountability is the way to fix it.

PS: I believe the censoring is his voice-to-text software.
--

Drew
Expand Edited by drook Nov. 28, 2023, 08:10:15 AM EST
New I actually partially agree with you there
When I watch the lawyer stuff I like it when they pop up the judgment or the pleading or the filing or whatever. It fills my laser projected 12 ft screen and I can read it really easily. So I hit pause and I read and absorb and then I fast forward the video to the next page shown and I do it again. I come to my own judgment of the moment and then I watch the video from the beginning to get the lawyers commentary and see where I got it wrong or not. The reading lets me absorb better than the listening commentary.

But without that lawyer showing that paperwork on the screen I wouldn't have been aware of it in the first place. I'm not following these cases and tracking down the paperwork in that detail. That's his job.

Same thing with the AI people. I let a bunch of them babble at me and point to papers which I occasionally actually track down and read. But not usually.

And yes you are correct about my profanity auto asterisker. I dictate to my phone and I do not bother correcting the curses. I'd spend a lot of time typing F*** f*** f*** f*** f*** and then actually typing it. No thanks. People can figure it out easily enough. It perfectly dictated the previous paragraph including asterisker. It knows that word does not exist but it let me do it anyway. I am blown away by the capabilities of modern dictate having failed so many times in the past. I had to upgrade a top and PC to run dragon dictate and it's still failed. It did not provide the capability that we needed. And now I am running near perfect dictation on a cell phone. So I'm happy to let it throw those asterisks in for the benefit it provides me.

Of course, the cell phone is projected to the screen so I can easily read it without my glasses. I hate switching to glasses but I will occasionally in order to actually type on the phone. But not often.
New Great timing, question about dictating
My wife is trying to write a book, but with dyslexia the typing is a challenge. She asked about getting something for the computer so she can dictate, but my last experience with Dragon was disappointing.

What's your setup? Android or iPhone? And you said it's on the screen, how are you casting? She's asking me to get this working as a Christmas present, so I'm actually open to spending some money on it.
--

Drew
New Android to Chromecast device
Google Pixel phone. Latest model from a year ago, not the current latest. Doesn't work nearly as well on cheaper phones, lots of lag. Zero lag on this phone.
New Yeah, I think it's time to get a Chromecast
I've spent years waiting for Google to get casting to work with smart TVs without a dongle, like Apple can do. It's clearly not a technical issue but a corporate direction issue.

And thanks for the pointer on lag on cheaper phones. She's currently got a low-end Motorola, so I shouldn't use that as a baseline. I'm going to try out the default "Dictate" on the Windows laptop tonight and see if it works, but need to remember I've got a cheap one and that might not show what it's actually capable of.
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Drew
     Current observation and predictions - (crazy) - (24)
         This is a wild ride - (crazy) - (23)
             emp blast should fix that :-) -NT - (boxley) - (22)
                 Much closer to AGI than further away - (crazy) - (21)
                     If we've learned anything from Sci-Fi ... - (drook) - (10)
                         It's too late - (crazy) - (8)
                             As long as we still control the hardware ... We do still control the hardware, don't we? -NT - (drook) - (7)
                                 Hell no - (crazy) - (6)
                                     So you think "Person of Interest" was non-fiction -NT - (drook) - (2)
                                         The first couple of seasons were enjoyable - (crazy) - (1)
                                             A key element they had that I haven't heard discussed about Chat GPT - (drook)
                                     I have had severel dreams about . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                         That sounds very innovative. - (static) - (1)
                                             I'm pretty sure there were other systems . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                         Based on a leaked memo, or possibly a totally B******* troll - (crazy)
                     1: WTF does remote control have to do with “AI”? - (CRConrad) - (9)
                         Remote control anything means possibly controlled by the computers on their own - (crazy) - (8)
                             You seem to have a rather idiosyncratic definition of "frothing". -NT - (CRConrad) - (7)
                                 I tried to figure out how the board worked - (crazy) - (6)
                                     "You said the medium is the message. B*******." [-ullshit, I assume.] - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                         I read that a very much YouTube vs TV - (drook)
                                         I actually partially agree with you there - (crazy) - (3)
                                             Great timing, question about dictating - (drook) - (2)
                                                 Android to Chromecast device - (crazy) - (1)
                                                     Yeah, I think it's time to get a Chromecast - (drook)

Like many lawyers, he's overly fond of argument, even when in agreement. Not that anyone here would be into that...
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