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Post #4,309
by Another Scott
8/8/01 8:49:22 PM
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New Science News story on DDT
[link|http://www.sciencenews.org/20000701/bob2.asp|[link|http://www.sciencenews.org/20000701/bob2.asp|http://www.sciencen...701/bob2.asp]] is a story on DDT's use in controlling malaria, with a fairly balanced treatment.

[link|http://warrensburg.k12.mo.us/ew/ddt/matt.html|This] story says the WHO credits DDT with saving the lives of 25 million people in Europe in the 1940s. It also says that only 1 person is known to have died from DDT - they mistook DDT powder for flour and made pancakes...

Plusses and minuses like much of life....

Cheers,
Scott.
Post #4,315
by imric
8/8/01 9:35:29 PM
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New *chuckle* OT, and waxing nostalgic...
Ah, dieldren - and let's not forget aldrin (No-Pest strips, Shell House & Garden sprays)... My old man was 'in' on those, too.

I remember my father choking with laughter during the 'ad campaign' against DDT (Silent Spring featured prominently there) when a talk-show host had a guest that mentioned an 'insecticide' that killed her father.

He recognized it. (I don't remember what it was - I was rather young)

It was illegal.

The farmer was spraying for CROWS, not insects.

I have more faith in my father's evaluation of our chemical lifestyle than you find in science news and journals (though he WAS a bit of a 'mad scientist', truth to tell... He 'insect-proofed' our house with his own noxious, unapproved brew along the foundations when it was being built - we've never had problems with bugs since... *grin*).

I still believe it's more business/politics than science.
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Post #4,332
by Steve Lowe
8/9/01 2:05:58 AM
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New heard similar anecdotes re: asbestos
A local mall was shut down and refurbished due to asbestos insulation being discovered. I was there talking with one of the guys in the company that was doing the removal...don't really remember why I was there talking to him...

Don't know how true this is, but he was telling me that there's more asbestos in the air in one day in any busy city (from car and truck brakes and clutches primarily) than there would be in that mall in 10 years. He seemed to think it was mostly ridiculous, but didn't mind taking people's money to remove it. However, I do know of one famliy who lost their livelihood because the icecream store they owned in the mall was forced out of business due to the mall being shut down.
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Steve
Post #4,338
by imric
8/9/01 8:27:12 AM
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New What's worse...
...is that it's harmless unless it's breathed...

How does it get into the air?

Through remediation!
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     Cheney to Congress- "You want energy docs? Bite me." - (DonRichards) - (58) - Aug. 6, 2001, 08:49:22 AM EDT
         And he's right. - (bepatient) - (57) - Aug. 6, 2001, 11:08:32 AM EDT
             Huh? - (mmoffitt) - (56) - Aug. 6, 2001, 11:40:05 AM EDT
                 ya mean like floride? :) -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 6, 2001, 11:57:07 AM EDT
                 I know of lots of communities - (bepatient) - (54) - Aug. 6, 2001, 12:17:23 PM EDT
                     My, we ARE shrill, aren't we? - (jb4) - (53) - Aug. 7, 2001, 09:59:37 AM EDT
                         Do me a favor, then. - (addison) - Aug. 7, 2001, 10:15:36 AM EDT
                         Work is underway? - (wharris2) - Aug. 7, 2001, 10:55:13 AM EDT
                         ROFL - (bepatient) - (50) - Aug. 7, 2001, 11:55:37 AM EDT
                             know all I need to know about floride - (boxley) - Aug. 7, 2001, 12:05:39 PM EDT
                             Whoopdedoo yerself! - (jb4) - (18) - Aug. 7, 2001, 01:50:40 PM EDT
                                 At some point, it *always* comes down to economics. - (addison) - (9) - Aug. 7, 2001, 03:21:17 PM EDT
                                     Reading comprehension IS a skill - (jb4) - (8) - Aug. 8, 2001, 09:46:54 AM EDT
                                         ..That you're lacking. - (addison) - Aug. 8, 2001, 11:42:43 AM EDT
                                         So... - (bepatient) - (6) - Aug. 8, 2001, 11:47:03 AM EDT
                                             Like I said: Reading Comprehension IS a skill... - (jb4) - (5) - Aug. 9, 2001, 02:03:16 PM EDT
                                                 And then you posted - (wharris2) - Aug. 9, 2001, 02:45:48 PM EDT
                                                 And reality is a bitch - (bepatient) - (3) - Aug. 9, 2001, 03:11:31 PM EDT
                                                     I'm sure that *proves* that - (Ashton) - (2) - Aug. 9, 2001, 08:16:52 PM EDT
                                                         Further research... - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 9, 2001, 11:18:45 PM EDT
                                                             Will agree: no remedy for punctilious bureaucracy exists.. -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 10, 2001, 12:03:16 AM EDT
                                 And still... - (bepatient) - Aug. 7, 2001, 04:26:22 PM EDT
                                 Arsenic may not be all bad. - (a6l6e6x) - (6) - Aug. 7, 2001, 08:49:16 PM EDT
                                     kfc secret ingredient as well as tobacco -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 7, 2001, 08:51:52 PM EDT
                                     Treated lumber - (admin) - Aug. 7, 2001, 09:29:32 PM EDT
                                     Have seen this, too - (jb4) - Aug. 8, 2001, 09:50:59 AM EDT
                                     BTW, I don't drink my deck! -NT - (jb4) - (2) - Aug. 8, 2001, 09:51:54 AM EDT
                                         Re: BTW, I don't drink my deck! - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Aug. 8, 2001, 05:14:41 PM EDT
                                             No, No, and No - (jb4) - Aug. 9, 2001, 02:13:50 PM EDT
                             Hey BP, speakin of throwaway cant phrases du jour.. - (Ashton) - (29) - Aug. 7, 2001, 04:34:40 PM EDT
                                 No Ash... - (bepatient) - (25) - Aug. 7, 2001, 05:21:55 PM EDT
                                     Re: No Ash... - (Fearless Freep) - Aug. 7, 2001, 05:30:08 PM EDT
                                     I'll buy the As argument.. just a tiny bit. - (Ashton) - (21) - Aug. 7, 2001, 06:34:50 PM EDT
                                         what is the loss of life due to banning ddt? - (boxley) - (20) - Aug. 7, 2001, 08:56:56 PM EDT
                                             Precisely the kind of question which homo-sap mangles - (Ashton) - (19) - Aug. 7, 2001, 09:31:13 PM EDT
                                                 Pure indulgence? No. - (admin) - (8) - Aug. 7, 2001, 09:35:49 PM EDT
                                                     Of course! legitimate need for... 10% of them ? - (Ashton) - (3) - Aug. 7, 2001, 10:10:37 PM EDT
                                                         shoot if a bank was ever stupid enough to lend me money - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2001, 10:52:54 PM EDT
                                                             Sorry - Swedish Defence Research developed that in the 60's. - (CRConrad) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2001, 05:39:30 PM EDT
                                                                 you rat bassard! - (boxley) - Aug. 17, 2001, 06:32:44 PM EDT
                                                     OK, then...Someone explain to me the Cadillac Esplanade... - (jb4) - (3) - Aug. 8, 2001, 10:00:05 AM EDT
                                                         market share of the navigator :) - (boxley) - Aug. 8, 2001, 10:18:36 AM EDT
                                                         Didn't say it wasn't. - (admin) - (1) - Aug. 8, 2001, 04:16:04 PM EDT
                                                             Nahhh... just the 90%. -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 8, 2001, 05:04:37 PM EDT
                                                 Enviro-atrocities? - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2001, 09:41:12 PM EDT
                                                     WTF does "natural phenomenon" have to do with anything? - (CRConrad) - Aug. 17, 2001, 05:40:28 PM EDT
                                                 definition of envirowhore - (boxley) - Aug. 7, 2001, 09:52:43 PM EDT
                                                 Atrocities? Bah. - (imric) - (6) - Aug. 8, 2001, 08:29:47 AM EDT
                                                     I'd be impressed by a source like that.. - (Ashton) - (5) - Aug. 8, 2001, 05:19:07 PM EDT
                                                         It was... - (imric) - Aug. 8, 2001, 05:45:43 PM EDT
                                                         Science News story on DDT - (Another Scott) - (3) - Aug. 8, 2001, 08:49:22 PM EDT
                                                             *chuckle* OT, and waxing nostalgic... - (imric) - (2) - Aug. 8, 2001, 09:35:29 PM EDT
                                                                 heard similar anecdotes re: asbestos - (Steve Lowe) - (1) - Aug. 9, 2001, 02:05:58 AM EDT
                                                                     What's worse... - (imric) - Aug. 9, 2001, 08:27:12 AM EDT
                                     Re: No Ash... - (kelzer) - (1) - Aug. 8, 2001, 02:17:58 PM EDT
                                         Right. Life is an affliction ya don't get out of alive. -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 8, 2001, 05:24:36 PM EDT
                                 blockquote... - (jb4) - (2) - Aug. 8, 2001, 09:54:13 AM EDT
                                     Thanks. That'll let me stop using <i>italics</i> :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 8, 2001, 10:33:29 AM EDT
                                     Gracias, Oh Master of the thin blue line (vertical) -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 8, 2001, 05:27:17 PM EDT

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