Pure indulgence? No.

Post #4,135 by admin 8/7/01 9:35:49 PM Reply	Pure indulgence? No. My father's Explorer is a necessary piece of equipment on his farm in Northern Michigan. Lots of snow, lots of work to do. My minivan is a necessary piece of equipment. Often we have way too much stuff to fit in a car. I've used it for carrying drywall, lumber, and a myriad of other large things. Yuppies running around in SUVs, wearing furs to the supermarket and getting their drives plowed in the winter, yes, they are indulgences. But I could have used one many times this past winter. Regards, -scott anderson
Post #4,141 by Ashton 8/7/01 10:10:37 PM Reply	Of course! legitimate need for... 10% of them ? ..a generous estimate? This Just In: A new, slightly smaller Humm-Vee in the works. For those who can't quite pay the $78K for the Real Thing. My objection is to the herd mentality which lies behind their ugly popularity. (And No One needs a $50K+ Mercedes UAV for any conceivable 'job'. Wants? Yes.) Of course you can't 'legislate' against the actions of herds, except perhaps by finding a way to bill each for the er 'truer cost' of the indulgence. Like making CAFE more than a forgotten slogan of yore. Guzzler tax with teeth. Insolence tax? Not if the item is Popular = lose votes. Which leaves us ___ A. PS - I bet that few realize how well the similarly-priced hybrid cars Go! With max torque (like the steam engine) at 0 rpm for the motor + gas engine, as that levels off: integrated power delivery means - It Moves. All we have to do is get a few Alpha-males to start trading-in for 'em.. the herd will follow. Hey donate one to me and I'll gladly show it around.. :-\ufffd
Post #4,144 by boxley 8/7/01 10:49:32 PM 8/7/01 10:52:54 PM Reply	shoot if a bank was ever stupid enough to lend me money I would be in one of the new honda hybrids in a heartbeat. With my financial condition it will be a 2 year roll my own project perhaps using a 1987 k car from cryco-dodge even better drive a turbine with hydrolic motors on each wheel, afriend of mine developed this technology(waiting on patent) that would simply spin 4 motors on each wheel at a measured for torque rate. Picture a helicopter rotor effect attached to all 4 wheels. Off to 60 right fscking now. thanx, bill Our bureaucracy and our laws have turned the world into a clean, safe work camp. We are raising a nation of slaves. Chuck Palahniuk Edited by boxley Aug. 7, 2001, 10:52:54 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #5,685 by CRConrad 8/17/01 5:39:30 PM Reply	Sorry - Swedish Defence Research developed that in the 60's. See [link\|http://www.granfoss.net/arne/k100e/bilar/carmakes/k1cafoa.htm\|[link\|http://www.granfoss.net/arne/k100e/bilar/carmakes/k1cafoa.htm\|http://www.granfoss.../k1cafoa.htm]][]. At least as far as I know, it has hydraulic (sic) motors not only articulating, but also driving, each wheel. If I've got this wrong, then I* was probably still before him, since in the late 70's (AFAICR), I "developed" -- based upon the possible misunderstanding above (and also on the Lohner-Porsche system I've mentioned here before) -- cars and lorries using hydraulic motors driving each wheel. And if that "doesn't count" (since it was only in my head), then lumber machines and dumper trucks (at least ones from Volvo) use the same system. As does the Bofors "model 77" semi-self-propelled howitzer, come to think of it. So if your friend gets a patent on it... Then that only goes to prove how fucked-up your patent system is. []: It's a direct link to a sub-page of a framed site; the main page is at [link\|http://www.granfoss.net/arne/k100e/bilar/\|[link\|http://www.granfoss.net/arne/k100e/bilar/\|http://www.granfoss...k100e/bilar/]]. (I especially liked the tractor-trailer combo from Kalmar Verkstad -- scroll down to 'K' in the left-hand manufacturer listing.) Christian R. Conrad* The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
Post #5,699 by boxley 8/17/01 6:32:44 PM Reply	you rat bassard! now I have to stop what I am doing and go thru every one of those links! Thanks! bill Our bureaucracy and our laws have turned the world into a clean, safe work camp. We are raising a nation of slaves. Chuck Palahniuk
Post #4,180 by jb4 8/8/01 10:00:05 AM Reply	OK, then...Someone explain to me the Cadillac Esplanade... ...as something other than pure arrogant indulgence. I'm waiting.... jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #4,185 by boxley 8/8/01 10:18:36 AM Reply	market share of the navigator :) In the town were I live there is a divorce going on where the husband requires 2k a month for dining out purposes and they ar fighting over the custody of their 17 polo horses. People like that cannot afford to be seen in a mere Expedition, gawd what would the neighbors think? thanx, bill Our bureaucracy and our laws have turned the world into a clean, safe work camp. We are raising a nation of slaves. Chuck Palahniuk
Post #4,263 by admin 8/8/01 4:16:04 PM Reply	Didn't say it wasn't. But Ashton was damning all SUVs with the same wide brush. :-) Regards, -scott anderson
Post #4,282 by Ashton 8/8/01 5:04:37 PM Reply	Nahhh... just the 90%.

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