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New Where are you looking? Google has Trump winning popular vote 48% - 47%
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Drew
New Just mutterings on B-J.
I would glance at the numbers at various places, but didn't do any figuring on my own.

(sigh)

J has been furious at Hillary for nearly a year. She's still for Bernie.

My friend T in Dayton has been saying the most nasty things about Hillary for a year or more too. He was at the Trump rally in Dayton where some guy tried to rush the stage. He would have voted for Chuthlu over Hillary...

The polling was a disaster. Too many people made too many assumptions, plans, devised strategies, etc., assuming the polling was right. "Hey, Obama has record approval, the economy is doing well, women always pick the winner and women will turn out for Hillary, ..." Conventional wisdom was reinforced by the polls in a feedback loop.

This is our Brexit. A lot of people are going to be hurt, needlessly.

Hillary ran a very good campaign. I don't see that anyone else could have run a better campaign. Would someone else have won? Maybe, but I don't know who. Bernie? Tired old man who's been in Washington for decades with no real accomplishments to his name who can point and yell about Corruption™? No. O'Malley? A former city mayor and governor from a very blue state? No.

Biden? A man who has a history of running at the bottom of the pack, a man who has been a Senator for decades? No, but maybe he would have done better. Maybe. But, let's not forget, he didn't run for family reasons.

I'm furious at the press right now. NPR has had stories for the last 12 hours or so about Trump's policy proposals and how the world is freaking out about it with their tut-tut voices. The NYT and WP have screaming headlines about "Trump Triumphs". Where were the stories about policy over the last 12 months? Buried under a mountain of e-mails it seems...

I really thought that if the polling were off it would be because she did better than expected. I should have realized that something was wrong when a year or more ago there was talk about picking up 10+ seats in the Senate and over the last few months that had turned into just barely having a majority. Ticket-splitting doesn't happen much any more (if it ever did).

Maybe Donnie will be the nation's Jesse Ventura - a 4 year experiment never to be repeated. But a majority can do a huge amount of damage, especially when it can flip the SCOTUS on the first day...

Man, has 2016 sucked. And it's still not over yet!!

Box is right that we have an opportunity in 2018 and 2020 - this is all on the GOP now. But did we really have to burn the village in order to save it?

:-<

Cheers,
Scott.
     Well that was unexpected. :-( - (Another Scott) - (39)
         Re: Well that was unexpected. :-( - (pwhysall) - (1)
             Unfortunately the rest of the world is going to have to get in line too -NT - (malraux)
         obg heheheh, hillary landslide - (boxley)
         Some have been saying... - (rcareaga)
         Not entirely unexpected - (Andrew Grygus)
         Where are you looking? Google has Trump winning popular vote 48% - 47% -NT - (drook) - (1)
             Just mutterings on B-J. - (Another Scott)
         Do you know what's going to be stranger? - (hnick)
         Yep, Putin's Pussy won. :-( -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (6)
             CIA says Trump was Putin man in the election subversion effort. - (a6l6e6x) - (5)
                 CIA? - (hnick)
                 If the Russians wanted Trump to be President, does that mean ... - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                     of course they would have preferred hillary - (boxley)
                     They were not responsible for her being the nominee. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                         Well they had to be happy that Trump was facing the only Democrat who could lose to him. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         no more piss and vinegar here - (rcareaga) - (1)
             Re: no more piss and vinegar here - (dmcarls)
         While I did think it possible, I too, was surprised. - (mmoffitt) - (21)
             You made this - (pwhysall) - (20)
                 That kind of "reasoning" is how we ended up here. - (mmoffitt) - (19)
                     A monarch, and a functional healthcare system :) - (pwhysall) - (18)
                         And fortunately a powerless monarch . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                             scotland, without a sense of humor -NT - (boxley)
                         Allow me to help you -- AGAIN. - (mmoffitt) - (15)
                             blah, blah, blah. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                 I apologize. I should defer to you. You've lived in the Midwest for 30 years. Er, wait a second... -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                     What's that got to do with anything? Have you heard of the Internet? -NT - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                         Oh sure. Because you really get to know people on the Internet. How old are you? 23? :0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                             What's that got to do with anything? -NT - (pwhysall)
                             "Why show up to vote for yet another Corporate Clown?" - (rcareaga) - (9)
                                 I might have been overly optimistic about the upside to a Trump presidency. - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                                     "overly optimistic" - (rcareaga) - (6)
                                         Yeah, Stein and Johnson aren't to blame. - (Another Scott)
                                         Still smokin' the DNC rope and refusing to learn, I see. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                             Gore ran from Clinton. Gore was in the House 3 years before Bill was Governor. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                 Aside sigh. I *WISH* my ballot looked like that. Not the punches, but all the parties. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                 y'all want to wait for all of the ballots to be counted before declaring a win on the popular vote? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                     AP Numbers. - (Another Scott)
                                     [blinking rotating text] Ya think?!?! [/blinking rotating text] (sheesh) -NT - (Another Scott)

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