someone who doesnt work or live here and you want to steal his stuff

Post #397,244 by boxley 12/17/14 9:56:02 PM Reply	someone who doesnt work or live here and you want to steal his stuff Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #397,245 by drook 12/17/14 9:59:43 PM Reply	Why does he maintain his U.S. citizenship? -- Drew
Post #397,246 by boxley 12/17/14 10:07:07 PM Reply	so you didnt build that is now you didnt earn that? If CRC comes around ask him how much tax he has to pay Germany each year(at least I think he mentioned being born in Germany.)As for why boris doesn't give up his passport, I cant answer that. He isn't saying. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #397,255 by CRConrad 12/18/14 1:27:17 AM Reply	Born, yes, but gave up my German citizenship before I ever earned a penny. Neener, neener. Learn to fucking read: DrooK didn't ask why Boris didn't stop having been born in the US. -- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi (Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
Post #397,300 by rcareaga 12/18/14 5:09:23 PM Reply	By god! There's a bit of the CRC of old. I'd assumed that fatherhood had irretrievably mellowed you. fucking cordially,
Post #397,261 by drook 12/18/14 6:32:07 AM Reply	You ask, you're the one has the problem with the taxes If he doesn't want to owe the taxes he can give up his citizenship. He doesn't. Why? He must think he gets some benefit. -- Drew
Post #397,273 by boxley 12/18/14 11:17:10 AM Reply	okay, he doesnt want to pay to be a us citizen obama just selected 5 million for nopay access, why doesnt he get a pass? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #397,325 by CRConrad 12/19/14 8:45:05 AM Reply	You know for a fact they're not taxed just like him? I betcha all the hitherto-illegal Guatemalan housemaids who earn the same as Boris, pay the same taxes as Boris. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? If not, what fucking justification do you have for even posting the drivel I'm replying to in the first place? You must have KNOWN it was bullshit. So you're obviously engaging in typical Stupid-Repo tactics: Knowingly carpet-bombing the discussion with lies, in the hope of drowning out the truth. Do you know what the word "despicable" means? -- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi (Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
Post #397,334 by boxley 12/19/14 10:23:17 AM Reply	most get paid in cash, how do you pay your illegals over there? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #397,337 by CRConrad 12/19/14 10:43:32 AM Reply	Handwaving, non-answer, Retardican S.O.P. Honestly, have you no shame? We don't, because we're not into reverse (or "in-sourced"?) colonialism in the form of importing slave labour in stead of farming out the work to poor countries. So, are you saying yours get paid as much as Boris? Do you really think any significant proportion of illegal immigrants earns enough to have to pay any federal income tax at all?!? No, of course you don't -- because not even you could be that stupid. So you're still just gibbering bullshit for the sake of... well, for the sake of gibbering bullshit, apparently. Thank you for so convincingly demonstrating how right I was to identify your behaviour as the typical right-wing thuggery of drowning out any reasoned discussion under a flood of verbal excrement. But please tell me, because I totally don't understand: Are you really not ashamed of your behaviour? And WHY are you doing this? I mean, the logic behind the ordinary accusations of being paid to troll seems rather compelling: Why would anyone want to humiliate himself -- because that is of course what you are doing, coming off as such a braindead troglodyte -- why would you humiliate yourself so, if you weren't at least getting paid for it? WHY, for heavens sake, do you persist in behaving like such an utter fucking arsehole? -- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi (Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
Post #397,339 by boxley 12/19/14 11:05:40 AM Reply	illegal construction workers earn between 12-15 dollars per hour http://yle.fi/uutiset/illegal_immigrants_pay_big_to_be_smuggled_into_country/5863295 apparently you deport them? What do you do with them? Chances are you deport them back to what ever shithole they are trying to escape from. Have you no shame, Old Boris makes big bucks so he has to be turned upside down and shaken for every spare dime because you hate the rich? Maybe you should look at your own motives. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #397,369 by CRConrad 12/19/14 5:17:45 PM Reply	Still no answer to any question above. What are you -- -- paid troll, or just such a dedicated useful idiot? At 12-15 bucks/h, how many years do you think they have to work 24/7 to approach what he makes in one? Next reply should contain an actual response to at least ANYTHING of the above. Otherwise, have the decency to just shut the fuck up, please. -- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi (Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
Post #397,371 by boxley 12/19/14 5:58:19 PM Reply	? I betcha all the hitherto-illegal Guatemalan housemaids who earn the same as Boris, pay the same taxes as Boris. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? well all of them are paying the same tax as Boris you idjit, he refuses to pay any. What kind of idiot question is that? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #397,414 by CRConrad 12/21/14 4:06:44 PM Reply	OK, sorry for being unclear: The same taxes as are being asked from him. Forgive me for being so cryptic. Of course anyone not actively working as hard as they can at being an idiot troll would have easily inferred that that was what was meant, but... Idunno, maybe I was giving you the benefit of the doubt or something. I'll try not to do that again. -- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi (Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
Post #397,415 by CRConrad 12/21/14 4:08:29 PM Reply	OK, so can you now rewind upthread some four-five indent levels and start... ...actually answering any questions, or do you prefer just to let your vacuity and intellectual dishonesty continue to hang out there for all to see? -- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi (Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
Post #397,417 by Ashton 12/21/14 7:55:53 PM Reply	LRPD, ever assiduously parsing, even doggerel.. answers for him, with a question: Did you like my little stink wafties? (Presumed answer: Not a fucking-smidgeon! ) Ahh.. if-Only.. LRPD could pass the deciding-vote on any T-Party bill of usual depraved kind. (Or decide if: "Allah Akbar" applies to Any ... of the bellicose contestants' fav deities to-Die-for.)
Post #397,304 by static 12/18/14 6:26:21 PM Reply	Why indeed. Okay, rather than guessing what Boris might get out of it, does anyone know what the real benefits are? Is it how many countries you can enter without arranging a visa beforehand? (I thought that was higher for AU or NZ passports.) Or is it something else? Wade. Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/
Post #397,247 by Another Scott 12/17/14 10:29:18 PM Reply	The rules say US citizens pay US income tax on their income. This isn't complicated. If you are a U.S. citizen or resident alien, you must report income from all sources within and outside of the U.S. This is true whether or not you receive a Form W-2 Wage and Tax Statement, a Form 1099 (Information Return) or the foreign equivalents. See Publication 525, Taxable and Nontaxable Income for more information. Additionally, if you are a U.S. citizen or resident alien, the rules for filing income, estate and gift tax returns and for paying estimated tax are generally the same whether you are living in the U.S. or abroad. - http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Income-from-Abroad-is-Taxable Why do you want to let him be a moocher and avoid his responsibilities? Cheers, Scott.
Post #397,250 by boxley 12/17/14 10:35:44 PM Reply	what is he mooching exactly? health care or foodstamps? Maybe schooling or perhaps using our airports? No the airport tax is paid when you buy a ticket. So what exactly is he mooching? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #397,251 by Another Scott 12/17/14 11:02:34 PM Reply	He's a US citizen. He should pay US taxes like other US citizens. That's what the law says. Lots of people with US citizenship live abroad. They get benefits from having a US passport even if they don't think they're actively using it. This isn't hard. ;-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #397,301 by rcareaga 12/18/14 5:14:26 PM Reply	hate to agree with boxley, but ...apparently the US government has lately been putting the squeeze on individuals who were born here of foreign nationals, or who were born abroad of US citizens but never lived here, and presumably never reaped the questionable benefits of life in this savage police state. In their position, I'd drop by the US embassy and renounce that identity in an Old York minute. cordially,
Post #397,310 by boxley 12/18/14 8:24:15 PM Reply	I have two other passports besides my american one glad those two countries are not trying to gauge me for tax money, I can barely afford to pay taxes here. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #397,321 by hnick 12/19/14 6:57:27 AM Reply	Fly in the ointment... Renouncing citizenship costs a lump sum of 40% of their assessment of your resources. You can't just flip them the bird and walk away. "Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable." ~ AMBROSE BIERCE (1842-1914)
Post #397,326 by CRConrad 12/19/14 8:52:53 AM Reply	Huh? Any resources? If you're talking about resources in the US, then that's a perfectly normal equity tax[]. (Perhaps a little arbitrarily assessed, for all I can tell, but still.) Are you saying Rand's example of someone who happens to have US citizenship but has practically never set foot there, will have his resources elsewhere* impounded upon renouncing his US citizenship? Any sources on that? -- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi (Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.) [*]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_tax
Post #397,331 by hnick 12/19/14 10:05:21 AM Reply	I seem to be out of date. It appears to have been relaxed in 2008. Unsurprising, given the subservience to the rich. There is still an exit tax but there are a lot more loopholes in it now. I haven't the time or interest to read a bunch of IRS forms to be more specific. Sorry about that. "Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable." ~ AMBROSE BIERCE (1842-1914)
Post #397,256 by CRConrad 12/18/14 1:28:31 AM Reply	Quote: "It's very hard to give up." So apparently he gets something out of it.

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