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New crock of IRS shizzit
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New Meh.
US citizens have to file federal taxes. I'm sure if he paid the tax in London he could deduct it from his US taxes.

A former Mayor of Chicago got in trouble with the IRS because he didn't file. "My taxes are withheld just like yours!!11" Didn't matter - he still had to file, and he paid a price for not filing.

If Boris is a US citizen then he has to follow the federal tax laws like the rest of us.

The Guardian:

The mayor of London, who was born in New York and holds a US passport as well as a British one, visited the country last week to promote his book and said during an interview with NPR (National Public Radio) that he had been hit with a demand for capital gains tax.

He said the US demand related to his first home in the UK, which was not subject to capital gains tax in England.

All US citizens, including those with dual citizenship, are legally obliged to file a tax return and liable to pay US taxes, wherever they are living, even if the income is earned abroad.

Asked whether he would pay the bill, Johnson initially avoided the question. But when it was put to him a second time, he replied: “No is the answer. I think it’s absolutely outrageous. Why should I? I think, you know, I’m not a … I, you know, I haven’t lived in the United States for, you know, well, since I was five years old … I pay the lion’s share of my tax, I pay my taxes to the full in the United Kingdom where I live and work.”

Johnson, who is bidding to return to parliament at the next general election and has been tipped to replace David Cameron as leader if the Tories lose power, was then asked why he continued to carry a US passport, to which he responded: “It’s very difficult to give up.”

Johnson has continually pressed the US embassy to pay unpaid fines it has incurred for the congestion charge. The embassy has refused to do so, claiming the charge is a tax and therefore its diplomats are immune. During a visit to the UK by Barack Obama in 2011, Johnson reportedly asked him for a £5m cheque for unpaid congestion charges but the US ambassador intervened before the president could answer. By last year the amount the US embassy owed in congestion charge fines had risen to more than £7m, the most of any diplomatic mission in the capital.

Johnson would also be liable to pay US income tax as he earns well above the foreign-earned income exclusion – the level up to which no tax is paid on income earned by US citizens overseas – which was set at $97,600 (£62,000) last year. As mayor, he earns a salary of £144,000 and on top of that he is paid £250,000 a year for his column in the Telegraph. Johnson did not disclose whether he paid US taxes on his income during the interview. The mayor’s spokesman said he would not be commenting further on his US tax affairs.


Poor baby.

Cheers,
Scott.
New theft by any other name
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New An inaccurate name.
New someone who doesnt work or live here and you want to steal his stuff
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New Why does he maintain his U.S. citizenship?
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Drew
New so you didnt build that is now you didnt earn that?
If CRC comes around ask him how much tax he has to pay Germany each year(at least I think he mentioned being born in Germany.)As for why boris doesn't give up his passport, I cant answer that. He isn't saying.
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New Born, yes, but gave up my German citizenship before I ever earned a penny.
Neener, neener.

Learn to fucking read: DrooK didn't ask why Boris didn't stop having been born in the US.
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Christian R. Conrad
Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi

(Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
New By god!
There's a bit of the CRC of old. I'd assumed that fatherhood had irretrievably mellowed you.

fucking cordially,
New You ask, you're the one has the problem with the taxes
If he doesn't want to owe the taxes he can give up his citizenship. He doesn't. Why? He must think he gets some benefit.
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Drew
New okay, he doesnt want to pay to be a us citizen
obama just selected 5 million for nopay access, why doesnt he get a pass?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New You know for a fact they're not taxed just like him?
I betcha all the hitherto-illegal Guatemalan housemaids who earn the same as Boris, pay the same taxes as Boris. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

If not, what fucking justification do you have for even posting the drivel I'm replying to in the first place?

You must have KNOWN it was bullshit. So you're obviously engaging in typical Stupid-Repo tactics: Knowingly carpet-bombing the discussion with lies, in the hope of drowning out the truth.

Do you know what the word "despicable" means?
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Christian R. Conrad
Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi

(Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
New most get paid in cash, how do you pay your illegals over there?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New Handwaving, non-answer, Retardican S.O.P. Honestly, have you no shame?
We don't, because we're not into reverse (or "in-sourced"?) colonialism in the form of importing slave labour in stead of farming out the work to poor countries.

So, are you saying yours get paid as much as Boris? Do you really think any significant proportion of illegal immigrants earns enough to *have to pay any federal income tax at all*?!?

No, of course you don't -- because not even you could be that stupid. So you're still just gibbering bullshit for the sake of... well, for the sake of gibbering bullshit, apparently. Thank you for so convincingly demonstrating how right I was to identify your behaviour as the typical right-wing thuggery of drowning out any reasoned discussion under a flood of verbal excrement.

But please tell me, because I totally don't understand: Are you really not ashamed of your behaviour? And WHY are you doing this? I mean, the logic behind the ordinary accusations of being paid to troll seems rather compelling: Why would anyone want to humiliate himself -- because that is of course what you are doing, coming off as such a braindead troglodyte -- why would you humiliate yourself so, if you weren't at least getting paid for it?

WHY, for heavens sake, do you persist in behaving like such an utter fucking arsehole?
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Christian R. Conrad
Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi

(Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
New illegal construction workers earn between 12-15 dollars per hour
http://yle.fi/uutiset/illegal_immigrants_pay_big_to_be_smuggled_into_country/5863295 apparently you deport them? What do you do with them? Chances are you deport them back to what ever shithole they are trying to escape from.

Have you no shame, Old Boris makes big bucks so he has to be turned upside down and shaken for every spare dime because you hate the rich? Maybe you should look at your own motives.
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New Still no answer to any question above. What are you --
-- paid troll, or just *such* a dedicated useful idiot? At 12-15 bucks/h, how many years do you think they have to work 24/7 to approach what he makes in one?

Next reply should contain an actual response to at least ANYTHING of the above. Otherwise, have the decency to just shut the fuck up, please.
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Christian R. Conrad
Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi

(Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
New ?
I betcha all the hitherto-illegal Guatemalan housemaids who earn the same as Boris, pay the same taxes as Boris. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
well all of them are paying the same tax as Boris you idjit, he refuses to pay any. What kind of idiot question is that?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New OK, sorry for being unclear: The same taxes as are being asked from him.
Forgive me for being so cryptic.

Of course anyone not actively working as hard as they can at being an idiot troll would have easily inferred that that was what was meant, but... Idunno, maybe I was giving you the benefit of the doubt or something.

I'll try not to do that again.
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Christian R. Conrad
Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi

(Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
New OK, so can you now rewind upthread some four-five indent levels and start...
...actually answering any questions, or do you prefer just to let your vacuity and intellectual dishonesty continue to hang out there for all to see?
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Christian R. Conrad
Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi

(Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
New LRPD, ever assiduously parsing, even doggerel.. answers for him,
with a question:
Did you like my little stink wafties?









(Presumed answer: Not a fucking-smidgeon! )


Ahh.. if-Only.. LRPD could pass the deciding-vote on any T-Party bill of usual depraved kind.
(Or decide if: "Allah Akbar" applies to Any ... of the bellicose contestants' fav deities to-Die-for.)
New Why indeed.
Okay, rather than guessing what Boris might get out of it, does anyone know what the real benefits are? Is it how many countries you can enter without arranging a visa beforehand? (I thought that was higher for AU or NZ passports.) Or is it something else?

Wade.
New The rules say US citizens pay US income tax on their income.
This isn't complicated.

If you are a U.S. citizen or resident alien, you must report income from all sources within and outside of the U.S. This is true whether or not you receive a Form W-2 Wage and Tax Statement, a Form 1099 (Information Return) or the foreign equivalents. See Publication 525, Taxable and Nontaxable Income for more information.

Additionally, if you are a U.S. citizen or resident alien, the rules for filing income, estate and gift tax returns and for paying estimated tax are generally the same whether you are living in the U.S. or abroad.
- http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Income-from-Abroad-is-Taxable

Why do you want to let him be a moocher and avoid his responsibilities?

Cheers,
Scott.
New what is he mooching exactly? health care or foodstamps? Maybe schooling or
perhaps using our airports? No the airport tax is paid when you buy a ticket. So what exactly is he mooching?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New He's a US citizen. He should pay US taxes like other US citizens.
That's what the law says.

Lots of people with US citizenship live abroad. They get benefits from having a US passport even if they don't think they're actively using it.

This isn't hard. ;-)

Cheers,
Scott.
New hate to agree with boxley, but
...apparently the US government has lately been putting the squeeze on individuals who were born here of foreign nationals, or who were born abroad of US citizens but never lived here, and presumably never reaped the questionable benefits of life in this savage police state. In their position, I'd drop by the US embassy and renounce that identity in an Old York minute.

cordially,
New I have two other passports besides my american one
glad those two countries are not trying to gauge me for tax money, I can barely afford to pay taxes here.
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New Fly in the ointment...
Renouncing citizenship costs a lump sum of 40% of their assessment of your resources. You can't just flip them the bird and walk away.
"Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable."
~ AMBROSE BIERCE
(1842-1914)
New Huh? *Any* resources?
If you're talking about resources *in the US*, then that's a perfectly normal equity tax[*]. (Perhaps a little arbitrarily assessed, for all I can tell, but still.)

Are you saying Rand's example of someone who happens to have US citizenship but has practically never set foot there, will have his resources *elsewhere* impounded upon renouncing his US citizenship?

Any sources on that?
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Christian R. Conrad
Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi

(Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)


[*]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_tax
New I seem to be out of date.
It appears to have been relaxed in 2008. Unsurprising, given the subservience to the rich. There is still an exit tax but there are a lot more loopholes in it now. I haven't the time or interest to read a bunch of IRS forms to be more specific. Sorry about that.
"Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable."
~ AMBROSE BIERCE
(1842-1914)
New Quote: "It's very hard to give up." So apparently he gets something out of it.
     crock of IRS shizzit - (boxley) - (29)
         Meh. - (Another Scott) - (28)
             theft by any other name -NT - (boxley) - (27)
                 An inaccurate name. -NT - (Another Scott) - (26)
                     someone who doesnt work or live here and you want to steal his stuff -NT - (boxley) - (25)
                         Why does he maintain his U.S. citizenship? -NT - (drook) - (15)
                             so you didnt build that is now you didnt earn that? - (boxley) - (13)
                                 Born, yes, but gave up my German citizenship before I ever earned a penny. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                     By god! - (rcareaga)
                                 You ask, you're the one has the problem with the taxes - (drook) - (10)
                                     okay, he doesnt want to pay to be a us citizen - (boxley) - (9)
                                         You know for a fact they're not taxed just like him? - (CRConrad) - (8)
                                             most get paid in cash, how do you pay your illegals over there? -NT - (boxley) - (7)
                                                 Handwaving, non-answer, Retardican S.O.P. Honestly, have you no shame? - (CRConrad) - (6)
                                                     illegal construction workers earn between 12-15 dollars per hour - (boxley) - (5)
                                                         Still no answer to any question above. What are you -- - (CRConrad) - (4)
                                                             ? - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                 OK, sorry for being unclear: The same taxes as are being asked from him. - (CRConrad)
                                                                 OK, so can you now rewind upthread some four-five indent levels and start... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                                     LRPD, ever assiduously parsing, even doggerel.. answers for him, - (Ashton)
                             Why indeed. - (static)
                         The rules say US citizens pay US income tax on their income. - (Another Scott) - (8)
                             what is he mooching exactly? health care or foodstamps? Maybe schooling or - (boxley) - (7)
                                 He's a US citizen. He should pay US taxes like other US citizens. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                                     hate to agree with boxley, but - (rcareaga) - (4)
                                         I have two other passports besides my american one - (boxley)
                                         Fly in the ointment... - (hnick) - (2)
                                             Huh? *Any* resources? - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                 I seem to be out of date. - (hnick)
                                 Quote: "It's very hard to give up." So apparently he gets something out of it. -NT - (CRConrad)

One of them was this cute little yellowtail, and she's giving me the eye. So I figured, this is my chance for a little fun. You know, piece o' Pisces.
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