Money is fungible. You know this.

Post #379,333 by Another Scott 8/15/13 10:41:59 AM Reply	Money is fungible. You know this. http://gbpi.org/loca...re-the-new-normal ÂThis status quo that weÂre having now with shorter school days, higher classes, furlough days, shorter school years, all the ways the local districts are managing their budget shortfalls, all of that will continue,Â Essig added. How did Georgia get to this point? First, nearly a decade state cuts to education. Ten years ago the state contributed 60 percent of school district funds. ÂRight now, itÂs 50-50,Â Essig said. On top of that, systems must cope with a significant drop in local funding. ÂAs a result of the great recession and the housing crisis weÂre facing, a huge drop in property taxes across the state,Â Essig said. Third, and new this year: the state is no longer paying health insurance for non-certified employees such as bus drivers, custodians, and cafeteria workers. ÂAll of those things combined are causing significant budget deficits in schools across the state,Â Essig said. Emphasis added. Obummer didn't make Georgia cut their insurance payments to school employees. Your Republican elected representatives did that. HTH. Cheers, Scott.
Post #379,338 by boxley 8/15/13 11:25:29 AM Reply	still trying to deny that the cost will double which is why cherokee county had to outsource. Without the doubling due to obamacare we could have come up with the cash. That question was asked and answered in the meeting. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #379,341 by Another Scott 8/15/13 11:44:02 AM Reply	<sigh> I'm only willing to butt heads with that brick wall head of yours so many times... :-) http://dch.georgia.g...Budgets_May_9.pdf (26 page .PDF): See pages 22-23. FY13 Increase employee premiums 2% ($6,881,250) due to increased costs as a result of the requirements of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act FY14 Increase employee premiums 2% ($11,966,438) due to increased costs as a result of the requirements of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act All of the other revenue increases for the Georgia Department of Community Heath (which runs the schools' health insurance program) is a result of choices by your elected officials. Not Obamacare. I think I'm done with this topic. Cheers, Scott.
Post #379,342 by boxley 8/15/13 12:03:01 PM Reply	okay, catch you in the next thread not sure why you were listing employee increases instead of school board increases but oh well Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #379,359 by CRConrad 8/15/13 7:56:37 PM Reply	Holy fuck, are you really that stupid? Here I thought it was you being weirdly Yanker-than-the-Yanks for some idiosyncratic gotta-fit-in reason related to you being a first-gen immigrant, but it's beginning to seem that perhaps you are actually really that duped by the Repo rhetoric. Newsflash, BOxy-boy: Just because they say it's a "doubling due to obamacare" doesn't mean that's actually what it is. Or, what, is "obamacare" only going into effect in Georgia, and not in places like New York state? I was labouring under the impression that it was national, federal! How fucking wilfully blind are you being, not to be able to see that this is probably a doubling due to Republican Georgia politicians trying to sabotage "obamacare" that you're talking about? It's one of the oldest tricks in the book: "Let's ratchet up the cost, and claim it's Obummer's fault!" And you're falling for that... Shee-it, man, and here I thought you were smarter than the average garden slug. Please try to be. -- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi (Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
Post #379,372 by boxley 8/15/13 9:54:28 PM Reply	explainin to the ignorant furriner read th comment this time health care needs to be paid there is this thing called money that has to come from somewhere to pay the healthcare if you are a county school district government worker, your employer paid health care portion is paid by money usually collected from the realestate tax, income tax and sales taxes. Income and most sales taxes are collected by the state realestate and a small portion of the the sales tax is collected by the county. School boards are local residents of the county, elected, only one teabagger out of seven and she is gonna get recalled if not convicted for filing a false police report. The state has decided that they were no longer kicking in the portion of the employer paid part of non certified employees (non teachers)Republica assholes as Scott has referred to them The county school boad decided ouch but we would find the money. IMPORTANT PART The state health care system is self funded. We do not pay insurance companies to do the health care. It is negotiated with the providers to get a cheap price and it is self funded. That organization stated that the amount of money needed to cover obamacare changes would approximately double in 2014. So funding cut FIRST then being told that not only funding cuts for non certified but payments needed to double because of obamacare requirements in 2014 The schoolboard then set out a proposal and accepted the deal fro Aramark. Now you can join nother on the handwaving team or gather with greg on the drooling into their depends team if you wish. Costs will be going up dramatically because of obamacare provisions. Even some democrats in washington are recognising that. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #379,381 by mmoffitt 8/16/13 9:14:42 AM Reply	Yep. This bill was never about anything other than generating more revenue for private health insurance companies. That was the singular goal and no consideration was ever given to the impact on anything else. The attitude was and as long as Wall Street owns that Yankee government will always be: "Screw the people, Wall Street needs more of their money!" Nobody running a self-funded plan is making any money from premiums. So self-funders were never considered in the drafting of the legislation. The fact that a self-funded plan can even be contemplated by mid-size employers should be enough evidence that there is far too much profit being taken by people who contribute nothing to the delivery of healthcare in this country. But those very people - the privateers - are the only people the Yankee government cares about and works for (aside: arguably, s/works for/is owned by). The additional expenses of the ACA that defenders love to talk about were the crumbs that were fed to useful idiots (think most Democrats) as evidence that their representatives cared about them. But the cost for those "good parts of the Bill" that were designed to be born by private insurers were going to be offset in a HUGE way by the windfall that would be enjoyed by the private insurers. Nobody but Big Pharma and Big Private Health Insurers were ever even considered in the drafting of the turd that is the ACA.
Post #379,385 by Another Scott 8/16/13 10:24:42 AM Reply	That's why the Republicans have voted to repeal it, amirite?
Post #379,399 by mmoffitt 8/16/13 1:17:07 PM Reply	You expect ME to explain Republican thought processes?

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