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Post #379,287
by hnick
8/14/13 5:04:19 PM
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New Welp, you've made this forum a lot easier to traverse.
Since only things that Big Money supports will get votes in the senate, and Big Money wants an authoritarian and unfettered fascist government, I guess fascism in the U.S. is a foregone conclusion. Not my cup of tea, but since you seem to support it, I guess everything will be fine. And it saves so much reading. Nothing to see here; we'll all be told exactly what reality is (at the moment.)
Post #379,288
by Another Scott
8/14/13 5:13:19 PM
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New <sigh>
Few things would make me happier than Medicare for All. I'd like to see it in my lifetime. Similarly for (a sensible system for) publicly funded election campaigns with uniform national voting standards (for things like days for early voting, mail-in ballots, acceptable proof of eligibility, etc., etc.).

Given the reality of the composition of the House and Senate over the last 5+ years, and the history of the USA, I'm willing to accept incremental progress.

I understand where you folks are coming from - believe it or not. I just don't think that throwing spitballs from the peanut gallery is the way to get to where we (including me) want to be.

Idealism has its place for inspiring people to do better. When it becomes a hindrance to actual progress, well, then it's a hindrance to actual progress. ;-)

My $0.02.

Cheers,
Scott.
     Don't get angry, get determined. - (Another Scott) - (80) - Aug. 13, 2013, 09:51:50 PM EDT
         so paying a shitload of cash to inurance companies - (boxley) - (37) - Aug. 13, 2013, 11:47:35 PM EDT
             I always thought... - (Another Scott) - (36) - Aug. 14, 2013, 12:15:32 AM EDT
                 have a free anecdote - (boxley) - Aug. 14, 2013, 08:38:32 AM EDT
                 Wow. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 14, 2013, 09:35:20 AM EDT
                     Nice. :-/ -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:03:33 AM EDT
                 Sound like that political guy**... - (folkert) - (27) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:25:28 AM EDT
                     I'm trying to be realistic here. - (Another Scott) - (26) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:37:45 AM EDT
                         That's the BEST argument YET for Single Payer. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:39:59 AM EDT
                             When you can find 60 votes in the Senate for it, we'll talk. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:43:43 AM EDT
                                 Things change... - (folkert) - Aug. 14, 2013, 12:54:27 PM EDT
                             Ding ding ding! -NT - (folkert) - Aug. 14, 2013, 12:53:47 PM EDT
                         Thanks for clarification. - (folkert) - Aug. 14, 2013, 12:53:21 PM EDT
                         cherokee country school district isn't a 1% - (boxley) - (20) - Aug. 14, 2013, 05:42:26 PM EDT
                             Schools are being strangled by various factors. - (Another Scott) - (19) - Aug. 14, 2013, 05:47:33 PM EDT
                                 excuses? not hardly bolded portion mine - (boxley) - (18) - Aug. 14, 2013, 05:57:20 PM EDT
                                     More... - (Another Scott) - (17) - Aug. 14, 2013, 07:36:08 PM EDT
                                         from the same document, bold is mine - (boxley) - (16) - Aug. 14, 2013, 08:38:46 PM EDT
                                             Keep ignoring everything else... - (Another Scott) - (15) - Aug. 14, 2013, 09:14:40 PM EDT
                                                 not ignoring anything - (boxley) - (14) - Aug. 15, 2013, 09:41:53 AM EDT
                                                     We disagree. -NT - (Another Scott) - (13) - Aug. 15, 2013, 09:44:37 AM EDT
                                                         that obamacare costs are going to double here? :-) -NT - (boxley) - (12) - Aug. 15, 2013, 09:46:20 AM EDT
                                                             The only reason... - (folkert) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2013, 09:52:36 AM EDT
                                                                 how easily they forget - (boxley) - Aug. 15, 2013, 10:22:40 AM EDT
                                                             Yup. That's not "Obamacare" costing more, but stupidity. - (CRConrad) - Aug. 15, 2013, 09:58:16 AM EDT
                                                             Money is fungible. You know this. - (Another Scott) - (8) - Aug. 15, 2013, 10:41:59 AM EDT
                                                                 still trying to deny that the cost will double - (boxley) - (7) - Aug. 15, 2013, 11:25:29 AM EDT
                                                                     <sigh> - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2013, 11:44:02 AM EDT
                                                                         okay, catch you in the next thread - (boxley) - Aug. 15, 2013, 12:03:01 PM EDT
                                                                     Holy fuck, are you really that stupid? - (CRConrad) - (4) - Aug. 15, 2013, 07:56:37 PM EDT
                                                                         explainin to the ignorant furriner read th comment this time - (boxley) - (3) - Aug. 15, 2013, 09:54:28 PM EDT
                                                                             Yep. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Aug. 16, 2013, 09:14:42 AM EDT
                                                                                 That's why the Republicans have voted to repeal it, amirite? -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 16, 2013, 10:24:42 AM EDT
                                                                                     You expect *ME* to explain Republican thought processes? -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 16, 2013, 01:17:07 PM EDT
                 Now, I'm a supporter... - (malraux) - (4) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:34:31 AM EDT
                     Understood. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:43:11 AM EDT
                         It's "the bill you like least". - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:51:09 AM EDT
                             See my reply below. -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:52:06 AM EDT
                             Here's the full quote. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 14, 2013, 01:39:44 PM EDT
         before folkert gets penis firmly in hand - (boxley) - (41) - Aug. 13, 2013, 11:50:48 PM EDT
             Purity or Nothing, right? - (Another Scott) - (39) - Aug. 14, 2013, 12:17:48 AM EDT
                 Answer to (1) - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Aug. 14, 2013, 09:32:11 AM EDT
                     Question. - (folkert) - (2) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:07:32 AM EDT
                         You've got a point. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:36:27 AM EDT
                             Ineffectual for certain things... - (folkert) - Aug. 14, 2013, 12:59:38 PM EDT
                     What color unicorn would you like with that? - (Another Scott) - (3) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:07:41 AM EDT
                         Objection. Asked and Answered. - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:27:45 AM EDT
                         Welp, you've made this forum a lot easier to traverse. - (hnick) - (1) - Aug. 14, 2013, 05:04:19 PM EDT
                             <sigh> - (Another Scott) - Aug. 14, 2013, 05:13:19 PM EDT
                 Answer to (2): No question. He absolutely would. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (30) - Aug. 14, 2013, 09:43:21 AM EDT
                     Evidence, please. - (Another Scott) - (29) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:06:18 AM EDT
                         Ask and Ye shall receive. - (mmoffitt) - (28) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:11:43 AM EDT
                             FDL speculation isn't evidence. - (Another Scott) - (27) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:19:29 AM EDT
                                 Here's our difference. - (mmoffitt) - (20) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:35:48 AM EDT
                                     Expect your unicorn any day now. I'm sure it'll be great. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:39:22 AM EDT
                                         Not looking for one. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:40:47 AM EDT
                                             Enjoy your bunker then. :-/ -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:44:14 AM EDT
                                     SImply: you Can't get There.. from Here, IMO. - (Ashton) - (2) - Aug. 15, 2013, 05:23:32 AM EDT
                                         Largely concur. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2013, 08:26:39 AM EDT
                                             There will always be things to argue about. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 15, 2013, 09:20:14 AM EDT
                                     The "pre-existing" thing is still an issue. - (Another Scott) - (13) - Sept. 5, 2013, 03:21:37 PM EDT
                                         I'm sure in pockets it is still a problem. - (mmoffitt) - (12) - Sept. 5, 2013, 03:48:33 PM EDT
                                             A brilliant example of - (jake123) - (11) - Sept. 6, 2013, 11:09:01 AM EDT
                                                 I'm unconvinced the ACA is better than what was. - (mmoffitt) - (10) - Sept. 6, 2013, 01:16:09 PM EDT
                                                     50 million people that couldn't get coverage now can - (jake123) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2013, 02:29:51 PM EDT
                                                         Re: 50 million people that couldn't get coverage now can - (boxley) - Sept. 6, 2013, 02:39:24 PM EDT
                                                     Guess who said this... - (Another Scott) - (7) - Sept. 6, 2013, 04:19:39 PM EDT
                                                         As from the get-go: S i n g l e - P a y e r is the Only Sane - (Ashton) - Sept. 7, 2013, 12:33:57 AM EDT
                                                         St Raygun? -NT - (boxley) - (5) - Sept. 7, 2013, 03:36:52 PM EDT
                                                             Guessing from the URL you weren't supposed to peek at... - (CRConrad) - (4) - Sept. 7, 2013, 04:37:34 PM EDT
                                                                 Hush! -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 7, 2013, 06:21:26 PM EDT
                                                                 Yeah, a champion of Single Payer in Vermont. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 8, 2013, 04:06:21 PM EDT
                                                                     And yet he supported the PPACA. Imagine that. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 8, 2013, 04:11:39 PM EDT
                                                                         He's a sixteenth of a loaf fan. - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 8, 2013, 05:31:35 PM EDT
                                 Evidence has a habit of disappearing from the tubes. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:47:23 AM EDT
                                     Archive.org is your friend. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Aug. 14, 2013, 10:51:42 AM EDT
                                         Re: Archive.org is your friend. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Aug. 14, 2013, 03:23:20 PM EDT
                                             No time to address everything. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 14, 2013, 03:52:11 PM EDT
                                                 No time. Will be back tomorrow. Same Bat Channel, ... ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 14, 2013, 04:16:43 PM EDT
                                                 Okay, I'll revise. - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 15, 2013, 11:36:01 AM EDT
             Remember, I learned it from watching you! -NT - (folkert) - Aug. 14, 2013, 08:04:49 AM EDT

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