Here's the curious thing......Well, you may FINALLY have learned SOMETHING.
when it comes to a 15 year old having sex with Pamela Andersen my opinion means nothing and is unsubstantiated and therefore valueless.
If you are to be believed...this is also true if we petition 1000 men about this.....their opinions will be unsubstantiated and mean nothing.You don't believe me?
Okay.
I can find 10,000 people who's opinion is that UFO's landed on Earth in the past.
Does this make it a fact that UFO's landed on Earth in the past?
I can find 1,000 people who will claim to have been abducted by said UFO's.
Does that support the "fact" that UFO's landed on Earth in the past?
And yet..... when it comes to pursuing your own agenda its okay to ask these questions and make judgements based on the answers.Ah, I see the limitation of your experience here.
#1. You are proposing that your OPINION be taken as FACT.
#2. I am saying that your OPINION is nothing more than your OPINION and is NOT a FACT.
#3. I ask for your OPINION on various questions (which you STILL seem unable to answer, such as if 16 - 30 is okay, is 15 - 29, 14 - 28, 13 - 27, 12 - 26) to ESTABLISH the CRITERIA you are OPERATING UNDER.
In other words, you've made statements about how we are too uptight regarding teen sexuality.
Then you've spent JUST ABOUT THIS ENTIRE THREAD (60+ messages) trying to evade simple questions.
(like, if it is okay for 16-30, what about 15-29, 14-28, 13-27, 12-26)
I think that is sufficient proof to show where the ACTUAL problem exists.
It is between your ears.
You make claims about everyone else being uptight.
You say that YOU are okay with it.
But you can't give any criteria and you spend DAYS and VOLUMES avoiding the simple questions.
Then you try to blame ME for your avoidance?
Allow me to provide SPECIFIC EXAMPLES of your avoidance:
In EVERY ONE of these referenced posts, I have SPECIFICALLY asked you what the age criteria was. I even made it simple and supplied a chart based off of the ONE instance I could (finally) get you to comment on.
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=37502|Very interesting.]
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=37516|"okay" == "do you see any problems with it".]
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=37524|Allow me to quote you.]
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=37547|How much EASIER can it be?]
So, Mike, Mr. Everyone-else-is-uptight-but-me, cannot even answer simple questions about his opinion.
In fact, he will avoid answering them, over and over and over.
And then you blame >ME< for telling you that your OPINION is NOT A FACT?
OPINIONS are WORTHLESS as FACTS.
Drop into any Aryan Nations meeting and you SHOULD be able to understand that. Even when the same OPINION is held by 1,000 (or more) people.
As for me, I've established that you are NOT going to provide the CRITERIA you use in forming your OPINION.
Which means that this "debate" will NEVER progress beyond you endlessly repeating your adolescent sexual fantasy.