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Post #37,463
by CRConrad
5/4/02 7:04:03 AM
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New OK, I'll take your bait - clarify, please.
Mike:
Now there some here who SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO want to hear that this = old men fucking children.
To this I have t[w]o things to say
a) I'm not old
b) Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony
Ah... So "b)" is NOT "I don't want to fuck children"?

And I don't give a fuck if this is intentional baiting and you think you've "won", and I "lost", something by getting me to ask this -- just answer, anyway.

You can crow over your "victory" in a separate paragraph.
   Christian R. Conrad
Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
Post #37,482
by Mike
5/4/02 9:56:35 AM
5/4/02 12:05:37 PM
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New Re: OK, I'll take your bait - clarify, please.
Sorry.....no bait intended
they're just quotes from Monty Python And The Holy Grail.
Obscure I know.....should have been clearer.

ARTHUR and PATSY riding. They stop and look. We see a castle in the
distance, and before it a PEASANT is working away on his knees trying
to dig up the earth with his bare hands and a twig. ARTHUR and PATSY
ride up, and stop before the PEASANT

ARTHUR
Old woman!

DENNIS
Man!

ARTHUR
Man. I'm sorry. Old man, What knight lives in that castle over there?

DENNIS
I'm thirty-seven.

ARTHUR
What?

DENNIS:
I'm thirty-seven ... I'm not old.

ARTHUR:
Well - I can't just say: "Hey, Man!'

DENNIS
Well you could say: "Dennis"

ARTHUR
I didn't know you were called Dennis.

DENNIS
You didn't bother to find out, did you?

ARTHUR
I've said I'm sorry about the old woman, but from the behind you looked ...

DENNIS
What I object to is that you automatically treat me like an inferior ...

ARTHUR
Well ... I AM king.

DENNIS
Oh, very nice. King, eh! I expect you've got a palace and fine
clothes and courtiers and plenty of food. And how d'you get that? By
exploiting the workers! By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma
which perpetuates the social and economic differences in our society!
If there's EVER going to be any progress ...

An OLD WOMAN appears.

OLD WOMAN
Dennis! There's some lovely filth down here ... Oh! how d'you do?

ARTHUR
How d'you do, good lady ... I am Arthur, King of the Britons
... can you tell me who lives in that castle?

OLD WOMAN
King of the WHO?

ARTHUR
The Britons.

OLD WOMAN
Who are the Britons?

ARTHUR
All of us are ... we are all Britons.

DENNIS winks at the OLD WOMAN.

... and I am your king ....

OLD WOMAN
Ooooh! I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an
autonomous collective ...

DENNIS
You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship, A
self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes ...

OLD WOMAN
There you are, bringing class into it again ...

DENNIS
That's what it's all about ... If only -

ARTHUR
Please, please good people. I am in haste. What knight lives in that castle?

OLD WOMAN
No one live there.

ARTHUR
Well, who is your lord?

OLD WOMAN
We don't have a lord.

ARTHUR
What?

DENNIS
I told you, We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune, we take it in
turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

ARTHUR
Yes.

DENNIS
... But all the decisions of that officer ...

ARTHUR
Yes, I see.

DENNIS
... must be approved at a bi-weekly meeting by a simple
majority in the case of purely internal affairs.

ARTHUR
Be quiet!

DENNIS
... but a two-thirds majority ...

ARTHUR
Be quiet! I order you to shut up.

OLD WOMAN
Order, eh -- who does he think he is?

ARTHUR
I am your king!

OLD WOMAN
Well, I didn't vote for you.

ARTHUR
You don't vote for kings.

OLD WOMAN
Well, how did you become king, then?

ARTHUR
The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering
samite, held Excalibur aloft from the bosom of the water to signify by
Divine Providence ... that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur ... That
is why I am your king!
|
| OLD WOMAN
| Is Frank in? He'd be able to deal with this one.
|

DENNIS
Look, strange women lying on their backs in ponds handing out
swords ... that's no basis for a system of government. Supreme
executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some
farcical aquatic ceremony.

ARTHUR
Be quiet!

DENNIS
You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause
some watery tart threw a sword at you!

ARTHUR
Shut up!

DENNIS
I mean, if I went around saying I was an Emperor because some
moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, people would put me away!

ARTHUR
(Grabbing him by the collar)
Shut up, will you. Shut up!

DENNIS
Ah! NOW ... we see the violence inherent in the system.

ARTHUR
Shut up!

PEOPLE (i.e. other PEASANTS) are appearing and watching.

DENNIS (calling)
Come and see the violence inherent in the
system. Help, help, I'm being repressed!

ARTHUR
(aware that people are now coming out and watching)
Bloody peasant!
(pushes DENNIS over into mud and prepares to ride off)

DENNIS
Oh, Did you hear that! What a give-away.

ARTHUR
Come on, patsy.

They ride off.

DENNIS
(in the background as we PULL OUT)
did you see him repressing me, then? That's what I've been on about ...

-- William Shatner's Trousers --
Expand Edited by Mike May 4, 2002, 12:05:37 PM EDT
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     Has the world gone crazy? - (Mike) - (115) - May 2, 2002, 11:07:21 PM EDT
         Lollita? - (Brandioch) - (85) - May 2, 2002, 11:28:42 PM EDT
             But "having a crush" != "having sex". - (CRConrad) - (70) - May 3, 2002, 08:01:26 AM EDT
                 So... - (imric) - (65) - May 3, 2002, 08:15:28 AM EDT
                     Yeah, but what's the age of *informed* "consent"...? - (CRConrad) - (64) - May 3, 2002, 08:28:51 AM EDT
                         I do claim so. - (imric) - (63) - May 3, 2002, 09:11:27 AM EDT
                             I *can't fucking BELIEVE* you really mean that! - (CRConrad) - (6) - May 3, 2002, 11:57:13 AM EDT
                                 ~(bad=traumatic) - (imric) - (5) - May 3, 2002, 12:49:26 PM EDT
                                     Drop the other side of the implication - (ben_tilly) - (2) - May 3, 2002, 07:28:47 PM EDT
                                         *chuckle* True.. -NT - (imric) - May 3, 2002, 07:42:58 PM EDT
                                         Excellent -NT - (Mike) - May 4, 2002, 02:29:20 AM EDT
                                     My bad - used sloppy modern , "traumatic = bad", definition. -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 4, 2002, 07:02:44 AM EDT
                                         Heh - s'alright - certainly understandable. -NT - (imric) - May 4, 2002, 10:02:17 AM EDT
                             I'd have to push "society" or "culture" at that point. - (Brandioch) - (46) - May 3, 2002, 12:01:02 PM EDT
                                 Good point .....a reply and some thoughts - (Mike) - (45) - May 3, 2002, 01:11:03 PM EDT
                                     A simple solution. - (Brandioch) - (42) - May 3, 2002, 01:27:45 PM EDT
                                         Just say no - yeah right! - (Mike) - (41) - May 3, 2002, 05:35:30 PM EDT
                                             Maybe we are agreeing that, the 'problem' is as much - (Ashton) - (4) - May 3, 2002, 05:51:38 PM EDT
                                                 Good thoughts - (Mike) - (3) - May 4, 2002, 02:18:21 AM EDT
                                                     Will choose aquatic ceremony over - purchased legislators. -NT - (Ashton) - May 4, 2002, 03:02:36 AM EDT
                                                     OK, I'll take your bait - clarify, please. - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 4, 2002, 07:04:03 AM EDT
                                                         Re: OK, I'll take your bait - clarify, please. - (Mike) - May 4, 2002, 12:05:37 PM EDT
                                             Just say "prosecute". - (Brandioch) - (32) - May 3, 2002, 07:11:04 PM EDT
                                                 Please start your own thread using words fuck and children - (Mike) - (31) - May 3, 2002, 07:55:24 PM EDT
                                                     What the fuck? - (Brandioch) - (29) - May 3, 2002, 08:06:55 PM EDT
                                                         As always ..... - (Mike) - (28) - May 4, 2002, 01:51:09 AM EDT
                                                             As always, people think *their* experience = How it IS. - (CRConrad) - (27) - May 4, 2002, 07:07:20 AM EDT
                                                                 Huzzzaaaa! Huzzzaaa! Huzzzaaa! - (Brandioch) - May 4, 2002, 08:50:21 AM EDT
                                                                 From my first post. - (Mike) - (25) - May 4, 2002, 09:40:48 AM EDT
                                                                     Link. - (Another Scott) - (24) - May 4, 2002, 09:58:56 AM EDT
                                                                         Thanks - (Mike) - (22) - May 4, 2002, 11:51:52 AM EDT
                                                                             I think I see a thread there. - (Brandioch) - (21) - May 4, 2002, 02:01:15 PM EDT
                                                                                 Your inability to understand and comprehend ........ - (Mike) - (20) - May 4, 2002, 02:52:51 PM EDT
                                                                                     Just establishing your position. - (Brandioch) - (19) - May 4, 2002, 04:06:01 PM EDT
                                                                                         I see - (Mike) - (18) - May 4, 2002, 04:37:41 PM EDT
                                                                                             I quoted you quoting something that "Another Scott" quoted. - (Brandioch) - (17) - May 4, 2002, 05:34:16 PM EDT
                                                                                                 And a quote is errrm....leading..to errrm....yeah.... - (Mike) - (1) - May 4, 2002, 06:45:38 PM EDT
                                                                                                     It's called "reading with comprehension". - (Brandioch) - May 4, 2002, 06:55:58 PM EDT
                                                                                                 Look.... - (Mike) - (14) - May 4, 2002, 06:42:23 PM EDT
                                                                                                     I see a bunny! - (Brandioch) - (10) - May 4, 2002, 07:15:12 PM EDT
                                                                                                         Love you xoxo - (Mike) - (9) - May 4, 2002, 09:54:48 PM EDT
                                                                                                             I know you do. - (Brandioch) - (8) - May 5, 2002, 01:47:48 AM EDT
                                                                                                                 Re: I know you do. - (Mike) - (7) - May 5, 2002, 09:24:34 AM EDT
                                                                                                                     Bzzzztttt! Thanks for playing. - (Brandioch) - (6) - May 5, 2002, 11:55:50 AM EDT
                                                                                                                         No problem dude :-) - (Mike) - (5) - May 5, 2002, 05:05:57 PM EDT
                                                                                                                             More lies from you? - (Brandioch) - (4) - May 5, 2002, 08:10:13 PM EDT
                                                                                                                                 Re: More lies from you? - (Mike) - (3) - May 6, 2002, 04:29:37 PM EDT
                                                                                                                                     Well, THAT is a lie if ever I saw one. - (CRConrad) - (2) - May 6, 2002, 04:51:20 PM EDT
                                                                                                                                         Christian, let's table this for now. - (Brandioch) - (1) - May 6, 2002, 05:46:40 PM EDT
                                                                                                                                             You both should fucking ashamed of yourselves - (Mike) - May 6, 2002, 09:23:57 PM EDT
                                                                                                     Maybe the question is not resolvable - (Ashton) - (2) - May 4, 2002, 08:11:28 PM EDT
                                                                                                         Until there is a verifiable maturity test. - (Brandioch) - May 4, 2002, 08:32:28 PM EDT
                                                                                                         Liked the gist - (Mike) - May 4, 2002, 11:03:08 PM EDT
                                                                         Lots of loaded didactic opinion in that.______ Don't buy it. - (Ashton) - May 4, 2002, 06:13:50 PM EDT
                                                     Who died and made YOU King of thread definitions, punk??? -NT - (CRConrad) - May 4, 2002, 07:04:51 AM EDT
                                             Hmm -NT - (Mike) - May 3, 2002, 07:49:57 PM EDT
                                             Sometimes, an "Alexander's Chop" is the *only* way. - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 4, 2002, 07:03:16 AM EDT
                                                 Can it be any clearer? - (Brandioch) - May 4, 2002, 09:00:54 AM EDT
                                     Good idea in many ways - the problem will be... - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 4, 2002, 07:02:52 AM EDT
                                         Hmmmm, there's a thought. - (Brandioch) - May 4, 2002, 09:03:22 AM EDT
                             There's a difference between physically / emotionally ready. - (Another Scott) - (8) - May 3, 2002, 12:37:43 PM EDT
                                 *sigh* - (imric) - (7) - May 3, 2002, 12:53:48 PM EDT
                                     But what does "consent" mean with a 12-14 yr old? -NT - (Another Scott) - (6) - May 3, 2002, 01:32:27 PM EDT
                                         What does that have to do with trauma? - (imric) - (5) - May 3, 2002, 02:59:12 PM EDT
                                             Actual source of 'trauma' IMhO: - (Ashton) - (1) - May 3, 2002, 04:53:53 PM EDT
                                                 30 yr old hymen intactum? Cant stand it gotta comment - (boxley) - May 4, 2002, 09:33:39 PM EDT
                                             I was addressing a different issue. - (Another Scott) - (2) - May 3, 2002, 05:55:58 PM EDT
                                                 Hmm. - (imric) - (1) - May 3, 2002, 06:24:47 PM EDT
                                                     Yes - (Mike) - May 4, 2002, 01:57:08 AM EDT
                 Whoa there, cowboy! - (Brandioch) - (3) - May 3, 2002, 11:52:55 AM EDT
                     I'll assume you're using me as a rhetorical punch-bag... - (CRConrad) - (2) - May 4, 2002, 07:05:59 AM EDT
                         That be the case. - (Brandioch) - (1) - May 4, 2002, 09:07:42 AM EDT
                             I remember BC law being surprisingly reasonable - (ben_tilly) - May 4, 2002, 12:18:58 PM EDT
             Random example - (ben_tilly) - (13) - May 3, 2002, 07:33:41 PM EDT
                 Trouble-maker..___________________________:-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - May 3, 2002, 09:52:18 PM EDT
                 Just found this... - (imric) - (6) - May 3, 2002, 10:19:29 PM EDT
                     Talk about yer 'adult reponse' - - (Ashton) - (5) - May 3, 2002, 11:31:41 PM EDT
                         Re: Talk about yer 'adult reponse' - - (inthane-chan) - May 6, 2002, 12:22:11 PM EDT
                         What we teach boys - (boxley) - (3) - May 6, 2002, 01:10:52 PM EDT
                             Perhaps the legal overreaction you cite - (Ashton) - (2) - May 7, 2002, 02:29:30 AM EDT
                                 When one teaches, teach for effect - (boxley) - (1) - May 7, 2002, 12:38:23 PM EDT
                                     Sounds like a winner to me. Lucky boys! -NT - (Ashton) - May 7, 2002, 04:36:57 PM EDT
                 Capitlism at its finest. - (Silverlock) - (4) - May 4, 2002, 12:09:43 AM EDT
                     Re: Capitlism at its finest. - (Mike) - (2) - May 4, 2002, 01:52:33 AM EDT
                         Re: Capitlism at its finest. - (Mike) - (1) - May 4, 2002, 01:53:46 AM EDT
                             Then I have done my job well. - (Silverlock) - May 4, 2002, 02:01:39 AM EDT
                     But will she be a harsh mistress___this time too? -NT - (Ashton) - May 4, 2002, 03:08:01 AM EDT
         Read this - (Mike) - (21) - May 4, 2002, 11:59:29 AM EDT
             So a 16 year old boy and 30 year old guy is "okay"? - (Brandioch) - (20) - May 4, 2002, 02:09:15 PM EDT
                 Wrong again - but I still love you - (Mike) - (19) - May 4, 2002, 03:09:34 PM EDT
                     Very interesting. - (Brandioch) - (18) - May 4, 2002, 04:22:29 PM EDT
                         Define "okay" - (Mike) - (17) - May 4, 2002, 06:03:04 PM EDT
                             "okay" == "do you see any problems with it". - (Brandioch) - (16) - May 4, 2002, 06:37:48 PM EDT
                                 Yes I see problems with it. See earlier posts. -NT - (Mike) - (15) - May 4, 2002, 08:06:47 PM EDT
                                     Allow me to quote you. - (Brandioch) - (14) - May 4, 2002, 08:44:07 PM EDT
                                         Are they gonna get harder? - (Mike) - (10) - May 4, 2002, 10:14:02 PM EDT
                                             How much EASIER can it be? - (Brandioch) - (9) - May 5, 2002, 01:49:14 AM EDT
                                                 Here's the curious thing...... - (Mike) - (8) - May 5, 2002, 10:01:37 AM EDT
                                                     Well, it's time to wrap this up. - (Brandioch) - (7) - May 5, 2002, 12:18:49 PM EDT
                                                         You are too precious - (Mike) - (6) - May 5, 2002, 04:38:14 PM EDT
                                                             The state of education today...... - (Brandioch) - (5) - May 5, 2002, 08:05:49 PM EDT
                                                                 Jane you ignorant slut - (Mike) - (4) - May 6, 2002, 04:44:31 PM EDT
                                                                     You, OTOH, are not an "ignorant slut"... - (CRConrad) - (2) - May 6, 2002, 05:04:06 PM EDT
                                                                         He aint doc - (boxley) - May 6, 2002, 05:46:54 PM EDT
                                                                         LOL.....hey snot brain..... - (Mike) - May 6, 2002, 11:19:46 PM EDT
                                                                     That, sir, is inexcusable - (Silverlock) - May 6, 2002, 11:33:42 PM EDT
                                         My turn to ask a question. - (Mike) - (2) - May 4, 2002, 11:07:09 PM EDT
                                             That's simple. - (Brandioch) - (1) - May 5, 2002, 01:55:23 AM EDT
                                                 I think..... - (Mike) - May 5, 2002, 09:12:27 AM EDT
         It is one of the major dissappointments of my life . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (6) - May 4, 2002, 12:41:25 PM EDT
             I got lucky - (boxley) - (3) - May 4, 2002, 09:39:43 PM EDT
                 I *HAVE* to ask - (Mike) - (2) - May 4, 2002, 10:21:53 PM EDT
                     Damn right I was traumatized!!!! - (boxley) - (1) - May 6, 2002, 11:36:17 AM EDT
                         LMAO -NT - (Mike) - May 6, 2002, 04:46:24 PM EDT
             I would have rather that my brother hadn't... - (ben_tilly) - May 4, 2002, 10:34:15 PM EDT
             Amen - (broomberg) - May 4, 2002, 11:32:26 PM EDT

And it's like that.
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