And a quote is errrm....leading..to errrm....yeah....

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Some of the statements appear to be just plain false though.
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Davidson said that "there's real trauma whether the perpetrator is male or female. No one in this field will tell you that there's nothing harmful about a 16-year-old boy being in a relationship with a 30-year-old."

I'm (quite seriously) not entirely sure this is a fact.

Because........in one of the articles it states
David Finkelhor of the University of New Hampshire, one of the nation's foremost researchers on the sexual abuse of children. "That is the good news." One question now, he says, is determining if some youngsters are more mature and "able to consent to sexual relationships with older partners."
So the Davidson statement is blatantly incorrect.

You say:
I notice that no names are mentioned. So, as far as this supporting your position that some researchers in that field DO say it is okay, no names and no comments are available. This is NOT supporting your statement.

David Finkelhor of the University of New Hampshire.....a name and an address.
You want a telephone number now don't you?

Go back and read 'em again.

>>I'm going to go out on a limb and bet that you won't reply to that question.
You were pretty much missed the mark with that one too. Oh but...then....I didn't use the word "okay" ..... which has got to be one of the most fucking nebulous words to be used as a fulcrum of debate...don't you think?

You quote:

"David Finkelhor of the University of New Hampshire, one of the nation's foremost researchers on the sexual abuse of children. "That is the good news." One question now, he says, is determining if some youngsters are more mature and "able to consent to sexual relationships with older partners."

Then you say:

So the Davidson statement is blatantly incorrect.

And here is the quote you wish to invalidate:

Davidson said that "there's real trauma whether the perpetrator is male or female. No one in this field will tell you that there's nothing harmful about a 16-year-old boy being in a relationship with a 30-year-old."

*sigh*

Why do >I< have to go through and explain this?

Finkelhor NEVER stated that he had FOUND EVIDENCE that such was the case.

Finkelhor stated that we should SEARCH for such evidence.

One question now, he says, is determining if some youngsters are more mature and "able to consent to sexual relationships with older partners.

Do you have trouble understanding that?

Do you understand that he could determine that NONE of the youngsters were are more mature and "able to consent to sexual relationships with older partners."

You were pretty much missed the mark with that one too. Oh but...then....I didn't use the word "okay" ..... which has got to be one of the most fucking nebulous words to be used as a fulcrum of debate...don't you think?

No. I don't. I use it because it establishes >YOUR< position.

Now, on to links. When you link to something, could you TRY to quote the applicable material, in a clear manner? The link is used to substantiate the quote and to verify context.

I do not understand why you linked to this thread and then quoted whole posts from me.

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