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Post #349,711 by boxley 10/27/11 9:27:30 AM Reply	record, as in on the cain has one that goers back years and is very public what little obama has is guarded like the last virgin in cherry hill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #349,714 by Another Scott 10/27/11 10:13:42 AM Reply	Spouting pablum in a column isn't a "record". Or at least not much of one. Obama has a voting record in the IL Senate and US Senate. He's written 2 books on his life and been subject of several others. There have been major stories about his life, votes, and policies in major newspapers and magazines. He's given long interviews. He's got extensive Wikipedia pages, too. He's been quite open. How are his college grades relevant to anything? Cheers, Scott.
Post #349,720 by beepster 10/27/11 11:16:27 AM Reply	Apparently college grades are important as much was made about Bush and Perry's grades...among others. I guess it just doesn't count when your chosen. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #349,721 by Another Scott 10/27/11 11:29:23 AM Reply	In what way, Charlie? Don't confuse the number of times a talking point is repeated with actual importance. Bush's grades were part of a piece of the way he talked and the way he attacked the job of president, e.g., http://www.slate.com...d_man.single.html Did his grades tell us anything different about the way he did his job? Obama's college grades would tell us what, exactly, about him or the way he does his job? Cheers, Scott.
Post #349,723 by beepster 10/27/11 11:35:20 AM Reply	Considering the current reports that he has closed himself off...I'd say right now they would be particularly relevant and important. And I really don't expect anything from you except that you will jump to his defense. Regardless of what has been done to others in equal or near position. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #349,725 by Another Scott 10/27/11 11:47:55 AM Reply	<sigh> In what way, Charlie? I'd say right now they would be particularly relevant and important. I ask again - How? Cheers, Scott.
Post #349,727 by crazy 10/27/11 11:55:54 AM Reply	I'll tell you why people care one way or the other Bush II seemed both STUPID and LAZY. And people really wanted to know how the hell he got though his college years. People look at Obama, his history, his books, his accomplishments (that were not driven by a rich connected daddy) and easily see the intelligence. So those for him know it doesn't matter, and those against him are scared, so they'll try to pick apart anything they can. Sorry. Non issue unless you are looking for some type of smoking gun. If I was him I'd limit it too. Why give the wacko something to pick apart while you were in college? He's already done the job, judge him on that.
Post #349,730 by lincoln 10/27/11 12:10:59 PM Reply	You mean like how his long form birth certificate was relevant? Hawaii released the short form, legally good enough to get a US passport. Unacceptable to the Tea Party and wingnut RepubliCANTs. Then Obama releases the long form birth certificate - and it's *STILL NOT GOOD ENOUGH*. Hell, just this week Gov. Goodhair was talking to The Donald and then was quoted in an interview that he's still not certain that Obama is really a US citizen. In other words, he's continuing to pander to the stupid people who support the RepubliCANT Party and will do anything to de-legitimize Obama's presidency. "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Post #349,752 by boxley 10/27/11 8:48:14 PM Reply	obama never released the long form they were very careful that the form(which has been analyzed as photoshopped) never came from him Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #349,755 by Another Scott 10/27/11 9:01:09 PM Reply	<shuuush!> Don't let the secret out!
Post #349,804 by lincoln 10/28/11 1:44:08 PM Reply	If obama never released the long form would the RepubliCANTS and Teabaggers ever have stopped their incessant whining about demanding proof that he was born in the USA? Not a fucking chance! "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Post #349,843 by boxley 10/29/11 12:27:53 PM Reply	huh? try to keep up will you http://www.wnd.com/i...iew&pageId=346201 who you gonna believe sherrif joe or some kenyan muslim? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #349,852 by lincoln 10/29/11 3:28:14 PM Reply	I go with the "Kenyan Muslim" instead of following a blatantly racist, publicity-seeking douchebag any day of the week. "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Post #349,863 by crazy 10/29/11 7:58:34 PM Reply	Sheriff Joe? WTF? C'mon box, no matter what, I'd hang that scumbag from a lamp post and give the Kenyan Muslim a whip to work him over.
Post #349,753 by boxley 10/27/11 8:49:12 PM Reply	not his grades, his financial aid info :-) Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #349,757 by Another Scott 10/27/11 9:02:31 PM Reply	I didn't get the TPS report memo. Sorry.
Post #349,759 by boxley 10/27/11 9:55:13 PM Reply	TPS? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #349,762 by Another Scott 10/27/11 10:07:22 PM Reply	You must have gotten the memo. http://www.imdb.com/.../tt0151804/quotes ;-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #349,722 by crazy 10/27/11 11:33:05 AM Reply	I had this discussion last night concerning college grades. Study for a 95 or coast for an 82. The general consensus is that it is very rare for any employer to care what your grades were. Did you get the degree or not? Coast is the preferred method, and anything past that should be reserved for your core courses.
Post #349,724 by beepster 10/27/11 11:38:11 AM 10/27/11 11:38:38 AM Reply	Re: I had this discussion last night concerning college grad I've worked for several employers where GPA was a factor in calculating your opening salary. Guys with 3.5 make more than guys with 3.0. Its an indicator of work ethic. So I must work for rare companies. However, I think you underestimate what employers think of grades. In later career, I agree, it is less important. Initial employment, its all they've got. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are. Edited by beepster Oct. 27, 2011, 11:38:38 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #349,726 by crazy 10/27/11 11:50:50 AM Reply	Yes and no I agree it could be an indicator of work ethic. But it could also be an indicator of time optimization. As far as job capabilities, depends if core courses or not. As far as using it for offering salary, hey, corporate culture does a lot of stupid things. It stand in for someone actually doing a detail interview and judging the value of the individual. It lets HR apply a formula. So if you want to play the game, and you find yourself applying to these types of companies, then deal with it. But I've never worked for a company that did this, and I've been part of the hiring process for about 25 years in 7 companies, not little ones usually. I've easily interviewed hundreds and offered about 30 positions, or approved for another department to hire them. Not once did we care about GPA.
Post #349,733 by mmoffitt 10/27/11 12:53:57 PM Reply	Concur. Until 5 years experience in the field.

It's the guy who killed bin Laden versus the human flapjack. - (Another Scott) - (43) - Oct. 25, 2011, 10:23:47 PM EDT

I almost never listen to Joe Scaraborough. - (mmoffitt) - (12) - Oct. 26, 2011, 07:58:32 AM EDT

Get more Democrats in the House and Senate and you're there. - (Another Scott) - (11) - Oct. 26, 2011, 08:12:37 AM EDT

Get more Democrats in the House and Senate - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 26, 2011, 08:42:25 AM EDT

59 < 60 Film at 11:00. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 26, 2011, 09:12:33 AM EDT

card check not good enuff for nuklear option? go dems go -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 26, 2011, 04:23:14 PM EDT

Well, RepubliCANTS are "progressive" - (lincoln) - Oct. 26, 2011, 05:23:30 PM EDT

Back to the lesser of two evils again... - (hnick) - (6) - Oct. 26, 2011, 09:57:20 AM EDT

What John Cole said: - (rcareaga) - (2) - Oct. 26, 2011, 10:04:19 AM EDT

Re: What John Cole said: - (hnick) - (1) - Oct. 26, 2011, 11:02:48 AM EDT

Good god - (jake123) - Oct. 26, 2011, 11:48:47 AM EDT

(5) Yes. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Oct. 26, 2011, 03:47:00 PM EDT

I'm not getting out of the boat, myself. :-/ - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 26, 2011, 08:13:27 PM EDT

Right page. Wrong quote. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 27, 2011, 08:07:13 AM EDT

There was a piece a while back - (S1mon_Jester) - (29) - Oct. 26, 2011, 11:45:46 AM EDT

empty suit? definition please - (boxley) - (28) - Oct. 26, 2011, 04:27:53 PM EDT

Amazing... - (S1mon_Jester) - (27) - Oct. 26, 2011, 06:17:25 PM EDT

Dont forget chairman of a regional fed - (boxley) - (26) - Oct. 26, 2011, 07:22:08 PM EDT

Horse's mouth, and some on his Godfather's history. - (Another Scott) - (25) - Oct. 26, 2011, 08:51:36 PM EDT

very good, take the time to learn then condemn - (boxley) - (24) - Oct. 26, 2011, 09:56:53 PM EDT

Eh? -NT - (Another Scott) - (23) - Oct. 26, 2011, 09:57:32 PM EDT

I worked with a guy years ago - (crazy) - (22) - Oct. 27, 2011, 05:49:00 AM EDT

record, as in on the - (boxley) - (21) - Oct. 27, 2011, 09:27:30 AM EDT

Spouting pablum in a column isn't a "record". - (Another Scott) - (20) - Oct. 27, 2011, 10:13:42 AM EDT

Apparently college grades are important - (beepster) - (19) - Oct. 27, 2011, 11:16:27 AM EDT

In what way, Charlie? - (Another Scott) - (14) - Oct. 27, 2011, 11:29:23 AM EDT

Considering - (beepster) - (9) - Oct. 27, 2011, 11:35:20 AM EDT

<sigh> In what way, Charlie? - (Another Scott) - Oct. 27, 2011, 11:47:55 AM EDT

I'll tell you why people care one way or the other - (crazy) - Oct. 27, 2011, 11:55:54 AM EDT

You mean like how his long form birth certificate - (lincoln) - (6) - Oct. 27, 2011, 12:10:59 PM EDT

obama never released the long form - (boxley) - (5) - Oct. 27, 2011, 08:48:14 PM EDT

<shuuush!> Don't let the secret out! -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 27, 2011, 09:01:09 PM EDT

If obama never released the long form - (lincoln) - (3) - Oct. 28, 2011, 01:44:08 PM EDT

huh? try to keep up will you - (boxley) - (2) - Oct. 29, 2011, 12:27:53 PM EDT

I go with the "Kenyan Muslim" - (lincoln) - Oct. 29, 2011, 03:28:14 PM EDT

Sheriff Joe? WTF? - (crazy) - Oct. 29, 2011, 07:58:34 PM EDT

not his grades, his financial aid info :-) -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 27, 2011, 08:49:12 PM EDT

I didn't get the TPS report memo. Sorry. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 27, 2011, 09:02:31 PM EDT

TPS? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 27, 2011, 09:55:13 PM EDT

You must have gotten the memo. - (Another Scott) - Oct. 27, 2011, 10:07:22 PM EDT

I had this discussion last night concerning college grades. - (crazy) - (3) - Oct. 27, 2011, 11:33:05 AM EDT

Re: I had this discussion last night concerning college grad - (beepster) - (2) - Oct. 27, 2011, 11:38:38 AM EDT

Yes and no - (crazy) - Oct. 27, 2011, 11:50:50 AM EDT

Concur. Until 5 years experience in the field. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 27, 2011, 12:53:57 PM EDT

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