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New I was responding to your comment.
You said, "As for graduating a new class of researchers...does it truly matter what the study is?" What did you mean in the context of the thread?

Are you saying there isn't any health issue worth studying inside our borders? We have no HIV here so we need to go find it in chinese hookers?


Why does it have to be black and white? The NIH funds a lot more than Dr. Li. Why can't the NIH fund the work of US researchers and let them do their work wherever the researcher thinks is most appropriate?

But we're just going over the same area again....

If you think that the NIH should fund some particular research, then get your favorite medical researcher to propose a project. R21 seems to be designed for that - http://grants.nih.go...es/PA-09-164.html

1. Research Objectives

The evolution and vitality of biomedical sciences requires a constant infusion of new ideas, techniques, and points of view. The NIH encourages use of the R21 mechanism for the submission of applications that describe novel scientific ideas, model systems, tools, agents, targets, and technologies that have the potential to substantially advance biomedical research. These ideas may differ from current thinking and may not as yet be supported by substantial data. The R21 mechanism is intended to encourage new research projects that are exploratory and/or at an early stage of development. These studies should break new ground or extend previous discoveries toward new directions or applications. For example, such projects could assess the unique and innovative use of an existing methodology to explore a new scientific area. These exploratory studies may involve considerable risk but may lead to a breakthrough that could have a major impact on a field of biomedical, behavioral, or clinical research.

The NIH R21 exploratory/developmental grant is a mechanism for supporting novel scientific ideas or new model systems, tools, or technologies that have the potential to significantly advance our knowledge or the status of health-related research. Because the Research Plan is limited to 15 pages, an exploratory/developmental grant application need not have extensive background material or preliminary information as one might normally expect in an R01 application. Accordingly, reviewers will focus their evaluation on the conceptual framework, the level of innovation, and the potential to significantly advance our knowledge or understanding. Reviewers will place less emphasis on methodological details and certain indicators traditionally used in evaluating the scientific merit of R01 applications, including supportive preliminary data. Appropriate justification for the proposed work can be provided through literature citations, data from other sources, or, when available, from investigator-generated data. Preliminary data are not required for R21 applications in response to this FOA; however, they may be included if available.

[...]


If you think the NIH and the federal government should only fund research done in the USA, then why not talk to Bill Gates about redirecting the money that he's dumping into fighting malaria into economic literacy in the US instead? After all, Africa is a rich continent and we've got too many people who can't pay their mortgage... :-/

Cheers,
Scott.
New Bill Gates can do what he wants.
Its his money, not mine..well, sort of anyway:-)
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
New China funds the NIH, not you. ;-)
New Touche
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
New Oh hell...
this charade is just a bit too much...

combat of the spread of aids, research for cancer cures, research into infectious diseases, etc...is all good. Its all global in nature...

I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
New come off it beep
some smart guy got a ton of government money to party with chinese hookers, he should get a medal
New That is too true
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
New I'm just thankful that..
Your random-walk through 'study subjects' is not setting priorities for anyone..
You can't even tell when your Nationalism-logic becomes irrelevant to the aims of (whatever topic, but especially science.) Even after it's (amazingly-patiently) Pointed Out in clear English.

(Oh, as to whether a 'biz-science' exists.. other than the pseudo- sort whereby corrupt mathematicians invent 'instruments' intended to spread Risk amongst enough dupes as to evade jail, and similar cha cha cha -??- I dunno.) But the thought that there could be such an oxymoron (?) quite exceeds my ability to fantasize.
New You be thankful
because until that day that we become the global commune...there is still ours and theirs. We have plenty of our own need on the health front and somehow I don't see the behavior of chinese hookers solving any of those issues for us.
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
New Then I'll make it really simple, as in biz-simple:
AIDS

HOW, WHERE you 'study' the phenomenon of its spread, prevention, modified vectors etc. is about all aspects within the fields of immunology, epidemiology -- and the various ways that psych and human idiocy all interact.

*YOU* are expert in not a single one of these (and other) related disciplines, let alone competent to perform triage amongst competing what-if-we-try-THIS? approaches re *any* proposed investigation, suggested by the informed. These decisions are not made by spreadsheet-math, remember?

While you are unable to see the limits of your imagined omniscient ability to parse any issue, even well-beyond your ken: anyone Not-You can see the bloviation behind this pointless thread. Ayn Rand: now There's where your best capabilities for creating humor for others, lies. IMhO, of course. But please stay well-away from my Petri dishes. Or anywhere near the box labelled, DANGER !!! HV *ON*
'K??


New One thing I am certain of
..don't want to have anything to do with your petri dishes at all.

I can only push so far before the game is no fun, even for me.
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
New Something to keep in mind, though...
It's not a game.

We all enjoy poking each others buttons here, but this story can have real consequences. When Congress gets goaded into changing policies as a result of people getting riled, as opposed to dispassionately examining the issues and considering the facts, it can have real consequences. C.f. what happened with the furor over crack cocaine. http://en.wikipedia...._v._United_States

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who realizes the 54 users here probably don't have much impact on what Congress does ;-), but who doesn't like feeding destructive memes.)
New Re: Then I'll make it really simple, as in biz-simple:
Ash, It's good to see you still got it.


Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends! (Disk crashes notwithstanding...)
jb4
New Re: Then I'll make it really simple, as in biz-simple:
Got what?
I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
New no its not, he just rents it from the government :-)
     This is just too good - (beepster) - (25)
         nothing wrong with that - (boxley) - (1)
             Ah...so we do this because we're stupid. - (beepster)
         Re: This is just too good - (Another Scott) - (22)
             Doesn't answer why we (US) should pay for this. - (beepster) - (21)
                 You don't really expect an answer on Fox News do you? - (Another Scott) - (20)
                     Or from the receivers employer either. - (beepster) - (19)
                         Where to begin... - (Another Scott) - (18)
                             Aside from the fact that I already awarded you the point - (beepster) - (17)
                                 I reject the point. - (Another Scott) - (16)
                                     Fine - (beepster) - (15)
                                         I was responding to your comment. - (Another Scott) - (14)
                                             Bill Gates can do what he wants. - (beepster) - (13)
                                                 China funds the NIH, not you. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                     Touche -NT - (beepster) - (3)
                                                         Oh hell... - (beepster) - (2)
                                                             come off it beep - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                 That is too true -NT - (beepster)
                                                 I'm just thankful that.. - (Ashton) - (6)
                                                     You be thankful - (beepster) - (5)
                                                         Then I'll make it really simple, as in biz-simple: - (Ashton) - (4)
                                                             One thing I am certain of - (beepster) - (1)
                                                                 Something to keep in mind, though... - (Another Scott)
                                                             Re: Then I'll make it really simple, as in biz-simple: - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                 Re: Then I'll make it really simple, as in biz-simple: - (beepster)
                                                 no its not, he just rents it from the government :-) -NT - (boxley)

Thanks for playing!
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