They HAD to do it in an ad, AFAICS.

Post #294,057 by CRConrad 10/2/07 4:37:42 PM Reply	They HAD to do it in an ad, AFAICS. For one thing, MoveOn aren't editors of any paper; thus, don't get to write editorials. For another, you say yourself (and the evidence so far seems to support) that it's perfectly OK to write the same thing in editorials; even conservatives do -- but "none were part of the debate", because nobody gives a fuck about them! That's because editorials are written in tiny print (and far too much of it), and don't have any pictures, nor even a really catchy headline(). That is why nobody READS the damn things(+)... And that* is why the Noise Machine is perfectly content with people writing stuff like that in boring editorials. But NOT in catchy ads that the unwashed masses might actually READ and absorb. (And that, of course, was why MoveOn had to do it that way.) (): Like, yes, exactly: "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?". (+): Oh, sure, the usual suspects: "The chattering classes", who go off to repeat or refute it in editorials of their own; and nowadays, some bloggers, who thanks to the new media mechnology (i.e, the WWW and blogs) get to be The New Chattering Class and do the same among themselves as their predecessors do in print. But not the huge majority of the electorate. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad]* (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link\|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603\|Jehovah]
Post #294,060 by bepatient 10/2/07 4:46:22 PM Reply	Anyone can write an op-ed and getting it published is a non issue. the NYT would do it instantly. You don't need to own a paper. Most of the big guys are syndicated and appear in multiple papers. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #294,061 by Andrew Grygus 10/2/07 5:19:44 PM Reply	Ah yes, that would be sooooooooo effective. Everybody would be talking about it for months! Well, maybe in some parallel universe very unlike this one. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #294,066 by bepatient 10/2/07 8:37:57 PM Reply	I'm glad you both agree with me because this thread is about why the op-ed mentioned in the first post wouldn't generate the same response as the moveon ad. I believe my quote was "if they'd done it in a non specific way AND in an op-ed, its quite likely there would have been no complaints. None at all." Sounds like you're in my corner. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #294,082 by CRConrad 10/3/07 3:48:37 AM Reply	Only problem is, you're still, as you've done all along... ...sounding as if you're defending the complaints, not the obviously-correct actual factual content of the ad. And there, at least I don't agree with you at all. (And I very much doubt the Gryge does either.) (But nooo, of course you're not shilling for the Repugnicans, oh no, of course not; you never were. You only happen to sound exactly as if you did, ALL the time.) [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link\|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603\|Jehovah]
Post #294,088 by bepatient 10/3/07 6:55:34 AM Reply	I'm ok with your fantasies Been dealing with them here for pretty much ever. I quoted myself exactly. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #294,090 by CRConrad 10/3/07 7:27:27 AM Reply	Oh shutup. You have no time to kibitz with me anyway, you... ...have a lot of packing to do. (Also, you have to get used to eating roadkill; I hear that's all they have to eat in the OJ state.) ;-) [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link\|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603\|Jehovah]
Post #294,092 by hnick 10/3/07 7:38:55 AM Reply	Too much Carl Hiaasen? Between the governor crack and the preoccupation with road kill, it sure looks like it. On the other paw, it may not be possible to read too much Hiaasen...
Post #294,096 by CRConrad 10/3/07 10:25:02 AM Reply	'Xackly: Yes, but no. Yup, that's where it came from. (Can't you just see the Gryge as a settled-down Skink? :-) And no, of course you can never get too much of a good thing! Ouch: Except now there aren't any more left to read. :-( Write, Hiaasen, write, damn you! [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link\|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603\|Jehovah]
Post #294,063 by CRConrad 10/2/07 5:56:20 PM Reply	Seems you read my post as if it were one. Q.E.D.

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